I am glad you brought this up Shannon. For example I see Ball Python keepers all worked up with the question of the year being "is this a yellow belley?". This visible marker for definite het Ivory is great for people who really know they're Ball Pythons but of course it gives people an opportunity to trick less experienced keepers into spending outrageous sums of money on something that is a "maybe" at best. With the Hypo Honduran price coming down you can bet many people will convince themselves they have Supers or Extremes and then attempt to market their offspring that way. If you can please answer these questions, at first it seemed the Falcon Extreme Hypo was the label given to these snakes. After the Super vs Extreme debates, his name was removed and just Extreme remained. So is it known that there's an EXACT number of these snakes from the last year [or 2]and they're all from the same bloodline??? Will any snakes which are very similar still be called Extremes even though they may be from a different bloodline? Personally for now I would only buy one from a few people I know and trust. This early in the game it should be possible to keep track of how many there are and who is working with them. I hope that this kind of info will be carefully monitored because of hopes for new versions of Ghosts and Hybinos, and the extra price that will come along with them. I hope and feel this is an important snake in the Hondo scene. I am worried that Hondos with a little extreme influence will become high dollar snakes as hatchlings that turn into average looking adults. This brings up another question already mentioned in previous posts. How do you price extremes.....meaning when more of these are produced, it is likely some will be much more extreme than others. So will it be like Tangerine Albinos? As in anywhere from $500 to $1000 per snake? That's a big difference between OK looking and best of the best. It is probably easier to see in the Tangerines so how will we price these Extremes? Looking forward to hearing peoples comments Tom Stevens

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• Terry and others,I think we need to start thinking about setting some ground rules on - shannon brown, Wed Dec 29 11:43:43 2004
• RE: Terry and others,I think we need to start thinking about setting some ground rules on - MarcB, Wed Dec 29 13:26:49 2004
• RE: Terry and others,I think we need to start thinking about setting some ground rules on - Nokturnel Tom, Wed Dec 29 16:42:33 2004
• RE: Terry and others,I think we need to start thinking about setting some ground rules on - don shores, Wed Dec 29 21:01:06 2004
• RE: Terry and others,I think we need to start thinking about setting some ground rules on - Nokturnel Tom, Fri Dec 31 11:00:32 2004