I agree, we are just a small insignificant spec of a problem in the big picture. However, it hurts to drive by and see it every day, knowing what is really going on down here. To the average person who knows no better, conservation is working, we see the ads on tv all the time. There is a dark side which herp educated people see and battle from time to time. What about an "incidental breeders permit"? Sounds a little far fetched i know, but what if? Although we could never release them in the wild, i mean after all where would they live without fanatics with rakes and machetes? I have lived in Fl. my entire life and it really hurts when all i can do is sit back and watch these amazing creatures disappear.I also agree, most reptile shows portray all reptiles as killer beasts, which do not belong i nthe home. Although they usually just see an Austalian idoit dragging a 12 foot croc out of a pond so you really can't blame some of them. I have often wondered of the exact definition of "incidental" as opposed to "unincidental"? I think the developers and FWC use a different dictionary than most of us. They must use the special issue $ben franklin$ editon. Thanks for your input, let's start a revolution.

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• bottom line? - DeanAlessandrini, Tue Jan 11 10:41:41 2005
• Yep.. - oldherper, Tue Jan 11 13:26:30 2005
• "Its Tree Huggin Time!!!" - Fred Albury, Tue Jan 11 14:58:00 2005
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• RE: Gopher Tortoises to be buried in FL -- Indigos?? - PHILFRANK, Tue Jan 11 22:52:16 2005
• I agree Phil.............. - Fred Albury, Wed Jan 12 13:17:30 2005
• RE: Gopher Tortoises to be buried in FL -- Indigos?? - georget2, Wed Jan 12 17:28:03 2005