Are they cb or wc?

they are both WC from China.



Are they mature,

They are both about 4' long Colouration is more greenish yellow speckled than yellow.



if not then what stage (do they have their adult pattern)?

Yes but where thery should be yellow (from books?)they are more greenish yellow with anover all greencolouration.



Are they thin or well fleshed?

They are not thin and do not appear to be losing any weight.



What size cage?

Both are in 3'L x 2'W x 2'H



What temperature conditions?

Temps are 80 F at the hot end and 74 F at the cool end. A deep sustrate of aspen abouot 3-4".



What are the humidity conditions?

Humidity 30-40%



What are the hide conditions?

A 1 litre cleaned icecream container with damp paper towel but they both prefer to use a piece of cork bark to hide under.



If wc, have they been wormed?

The vet took swabs and found very few protazoae, she decided that we get them feeding first or in a few weeks time. They have an appointment next week and will be wormed then.



Are you feeding day or night?

Tried both no effect.



How are they behaving.

More active early morning and evening. They are not very active during the day. Definitly not as feisty as when I first got them.



I was wondering if I should brumate them for the remaining winter 4-6 weeks?





JohnG
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