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RE: What is driving this manufactured contoversy over Suriname and Guyana boas?

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Posted by: madisonrecords at Thu Feb 17 16:41:34 2005   [ Email Message ] [ Show All Posts by madisonrecords ]  
   

I cannot read peoples minds, but this has been a debate with breeders at least for the last 17yrs that I have " actually " kept B.C.C. localities.That is why, I have recommended people trying to budget a trip down there to see these things for themselves. I know that you have had travels in different areas of South America as I and you have came up with your own convictions, as I have also. Maybe, this is the most important aspect; " Everyone that can, should go and draw their own conclusions? " Almost all of my bloodlines are known localities from Suriname and Guyana. I do not ever " knowingly or intentionally " breed one to another and this is just my personnal choice, but if the two localities are bred together, by mistake, " it is not a terrible thing and I am as big a PURIST as anyone. " It is kind of a " double edged sword " when it comes down to it for example; " A Peruvian and a Suriname is classified under the species B.C.C. Therefore, is it a bad thing to cross the two? They are the same species. " Here is my take and one of many examples; " Alot of the classifications that were done on these animals were done years ago and in my opinion are very outdated. " If it were done to do further research, we would probably have many more Sub-Species than what we do right now. Truth be known, a Peruvian Boa should be a different Sub-Species from a Suriname and a Guyana. I am a firm believer that; " Eastern Venezuela to French Guiana and the parts of Brazil that border those are pretty much the same Boa. " Why,I have been there and done that and seen for myself. On the other hand; " I have seldom seen a boa from Peru that could go for a Suriname " on average. " There is even a exception to that rule. B.C.C. are so freaking variable, that it is not even funny and that is why there is so much confusion.Nature, does not know political borders and here is my take; " I truly believe that there are certain segregated pockits of Jungle that Boas ADAPT different characteristics, ( Boas from dense Jungle or more open Jungle or Higher elevations or dryer areas or wetter areas ) kind of how a cave salammander develops no eyes.To close; " I choose to keep localities straight and to buy from others that do the same, this is my personnal coviction. " In the wild, weird things can happen that even rival irresponsible breedings in captivity. In the 90s, my good friend Stan Chiras brought in a wild caught gravid Emerald Tree Boa that throwed babies that were obviously sired by an Amazon Tree Boa! This has proven to be fact and happens in the wild and they are two COMPLETELY DIFFERENT SPECIES. What does that have to do with anything? I don't know, think about it? On the Wokemon Island alone, " I seen purple with widows peaks and pinks with none and red tails and orange tails and black tails and purple tails and silver boas and blue boas and boas with green and boas with speckling and some with none and bellys with speckling and some with none and in Pokrigon Suriname, the same thing. " This is not a O.K. to cross species, but if you do not know for sure, have fun and call them what they really are: Boa Constrictor Constrictor ssp..........GOD BLESS.......Johnson Herp


   

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