return to main index

  mobile - desktop
follow us on facebook follow us on twitter follow us on YouTube link to us on LinkedIn
Southwestern Center for Herpetological Research  
Click for 65% off Shipping with Reptiles 2 You
Locate a business by name: click to list your business
search the classifieds. buy an account
events by zip code list an event
Search the forums             Search in:
News & Events: How a python change the course of Attenbourgh's life . . . . . . . . . .  Make good choices . . . . . . . . . .  Burmese found on roadside in Wisconsin raises issues . . . . . . . . . .  Short interview with Bryan Suson of Sundown Reptiles . . . . . . . . . .  Happy Earth Day . . . . . . . . . .  Kingsnake Merch Store . . . . . . . . . .  Kingsnake returns to Tinley . . . . . . . . . .  kingsnake.com joins Monitor Brains! . . . . . . . . . .  Sneak Peek . . . . . . . . . .  Amphibian gut bacteria showing promise in cancer research . . . . . . . . . .  Herp Photo of the Day . . . . . . . . . .  Herp Photo of the Day . . . . . . . . . .  Meet The Baroness - The world's longest snake . . . . . . . . . .  Herp Photo of the Day . . . . . . . . . .  Updates? . . . . . . . . . .  Herp Photo of the Day . . . . . . . . . .  The mechanics behind the viper strike . . . . . . . . . .  Snakes on a Train? . . . . . . . . . .  Tracking the animals in the Florida Everglades - Meet the Croc Docs . . . . . . . . . .  Reintroduction attempts give San Francisco Garter a second chance . . . . . . . . . .  Promoting Reptiles is Our Jam Man . . . . . . . . . .  Origins of Chytrid discovered . . . . . . . . . .  Wisdom Wednesday - The Forums - The water is warm... Come on in! . . . . . . . . . .  Kingsnake.com Past, Present and Future . . . . . . . . . .  IHS Celebrates 50 years . . . . . . . . . .  End of January 2026 . . . . . . . . . .  Fun Fact Friday - Green Tree Monitor . . . . . . . . . .  The Evolution of the Osteoderm discovered . . . . . . . . . .  PACNWRS Expo Jan 2026 . . . . . . . . . .  Diamondback discovered in new Texas county for first time . . . . . . . . . .  Bay Area Herpetological Society Meeting - May 22, 2026 . . . . . . . . . .  DFW Herp Society Meeting - May 23, 2026 . . . . . . . . . .  Tucson Herpetological Society Meeting - May 25, 2026 . . . . . . . . . .  Greater Cincinnati Herp Society Meeting - June 03, 2026 . . . . . . . . . .  CRE - Jun. 20-21, 2026 . . . . . . . . . .  Colorado Herp Society Meeting - June 20, 2026 . . . . . . . . . .  Chicago Herpetological Society Meeting - June 21, 2026 . . . . . . . . . .  Bay Area Herpetological Society Meeting - June 26, 2026 . . . . . . . . . .  DFW Herp Society Meeting - June 27, 2026 . . . . . . . . . .  Greater Cincinnati Herp Society Meeting - July 01, 2026 . . . . . . . . . . 

I believe the moustache is an entirely separate heritable trait. . .

[ Login ] [ User Prefs ] [ Search Forums ] [ Back to Main Page ] [ Back to Ball Pythons ]

Posted by: bloodycats at Mon Mar 7 19:49:45 2005   [ Email Message ] [ Show All Posts by bloodycats ]  
   

Why I believe that a "moustache" is a heritable trait in it's own right is the snakekeeper's axanthics. From browsing their available list off and on the past couple years, I have noticed that the axanthics seem to usually have the moustache, and so do the hets! It may be a co-dom thing people just aren't too concerned with? A possible axanthic het marker? (Of course if it is inherited seperately from the axanthic gene, it only marks that the snake is related to the axanthic blood who demonstrated the moustache where it came from, NOT that it carries the gene for axanthic, as these traits may be inherited separately.)



It'd be interesting for some input about this from people who have SK axanthics and hets, or even just moustachioed normals. But I have definately noticed the moustache along with that strain of axanthics, and also in clutches of normals whose siblings mostly also carry that trait.It makes me think it is definately a heritable trait. It's true relationship to the axanthic gene-- I do not know.



I have actually been looking for a female with a moustache because I think it's cute, much in the way I was thrilled that my female's eye stripes end, while my ghost's eye stripes fade into his neck. They are just interesting differences that probably don't mean a thing, but to me make the snakes unique. I have four balls now .2 normals, 1. ghost and 1. pastel whose patterns are all very interesting to me. (As an artist who has studied my snakes as individuals, I could probably draw the jist of their unique patterns all on command.) There are nucances in pattern and color in these creatures we often miss in the big picture of "morphs." These qualities I like that make my animals different from one another are usually those same traits people try to exploit when marketing a normal as "possibly the next big thing" from eyes, to bellies, to spots and stripes. We probably look over many minute heritable traits in balls while searching for the earth-shattering ones. IMHO.


   

[ Show Entire Thread ]


<< Previous Message:  Black Moustache..... Only on the Jungle??? - gant77, Mon Mar 7 02:23:43 2005

Click to visit Classifieds Click to visit Sierra Fish and Pets Click to visit Spitfire Reptiles
KINGSNAKE.COM

Enjoy all our content free of charge with a user account that gives you full access to every feature. For added visibility, paid options are available - post in our Classifieds, showcase your business with Banner Ads or a Directory listing, promote reptile events, and more.

Quick Links
Community
Legal & Safety
Support

Register for free ✓ Sign up!

Kingsnake.com ® is a registered trademark © 1997-