I know that nothing here in the states can be traced back to founding stock, but I think it's equally absurd to "assume" that all carpets are of mixed anscestry. Very few jungles were crossed with diamonds 15 years ago while most jungle type animals were bred to other jungle type animals. Assuming that all jungles must have diamond because of this fact is equally absurd IMO. There are true lineages of jungles out there, and it's safe to "assume" who's they are. I know several breeders that imported the founding stock and they were never bred to diamonds...ever. I know Casey Lazik, and Terry Vandeventer, and Montgomery, Black, and some VPI lines have never been bred to diamonds. That is as soon as they reached US soil. That's not to say that they weren't bred with diamonds in Europe. They may have been.



For me, I'm not claiming that I have pure jungles, but who can prove it anyway? Look at it this way. Wild populations straight from Australia are nothing more than different isolated or geographic races of intergrades. Even if we imported legally some wild cheynei how would you know they have never had coastal in the lineage? You wouldn't.....cause they naturally do what others have bred them for here. I'm not justifying the act of laziness by breeding two carpets of different appearances just cause you're lazy, but I don't think it hurts if there are clear and distinct goals in mind if carpets of different ssp are bred together. It adds diversity. which is exactly what you find in the jungles of the Atherton Tablelands with jungles...and all other spp too.

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