no i saw veins.......i had read somewhere to look for a good red glow and ive also see veins when i did it.......ive dampened the vermiculite a bit and i didnt get the eggs wet ......could their have been any damage done by what ive mentioned happening.....it has not gotten any worse and there is no discoloration between any of the eggs........it looked alot wors when i first saw it as a good part of the eggs which is plump looking was under other eggs and some vermiculite........thanks for the help.....Jerry

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