If you read further to the bottom of my post, I said none that are known to humans. However I've done quite a bit of research over the brumating season considering upcoming purchases (I have a whiteside black, considering a whitesided yellow and I wanted to see if there was such a thing as a true whitesided glades just to have one of all lol.)

Perhaps you should do more research, whitesided everglades do exist. Heck they were available in the trade before licorice sticks became available. Whitesided Texas rats go back even further than the everglades version, but are rare or non-existant in the herp trade today.

From everything I was told and everything I read, there has never been a wild caught glades rat.

I'm guessing that you mean a wild caught whitesided everglades rat? There have certainly been many wild caught glades rats, lol. I've caught a few myself. Everything you read about true everglades being extinct in the wild is totally BUNK. While they may not be as common as they were back in 1935, I can assure you Everglades rats are alive and well in south Florida. See Crimsonking's post above.

Many inexperienced dealers sell whitesided everglades rats as whitesided yellow rats. They think just because the snake is yellow with white sides it has to be a yellow, not an everglades. This ignorance of how the whitesided mutation affects the snakes' color and pattern is where the confusion lies and misrepresentation often begins.

Maybe Mark Banczak or Hotshot can post pictures of their Everglades rat snakes that came from my whitesided bloodlines. Mark's example is one of the reddest everglades I've seen and was produced by breeding a male whitesided glades to a normal female. Surely if he was actually a yellow rat then I wouldn't be getting exceptional Everglades babies out of them? LOL.

dg

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• How many Everglades morphs? How about some pictures? - chris_harper2, Wed Mar 16 13:47:17 2005
• RE: How many Everglades morphs? How about some pictures? - crtoon83, Wed Mar 16 15:51:54 2005
• Oh, and here's a picture - crtoon83, Wed Mar 16 15:52:53 2005
• RE: How many Everglades morphs? How about some pictures? - Dwight Good, Wed Mar 16 17:01:51 2005
• RE: How many Everglades morphs? How about some pictures? - crtoon83, Wed Mar 16 19:45:36 2005
• RE: How many Everglades morphs? How about some pictures? - Dwight Good, Wed Mar 16 21:40:00 2005
• RE: How many Everglades morphs? How about some pictures? - crtoon83, Wed Mar 16 23:17:42 2005
• I'm outta town right now - Mark Banczak, Thu Mar 17 09:14:38 2005
• Here's a DG-produced het Whitesided - Mark Banczak, Thu Mar 17 09:42:40 2005
• RE: Here's a DG-produced het Whitesided - chris_harper2, Thu Mar 17 10:00:13 2005
• RE:Dwight are you still - Snakesunlimited1, Thu Mar 17 23:36:17 2005
• Original Whitesided Everglades - D Goudie, Sun Mar 20 07:07:10 2005
• RE: No Pic came up NP - Snakesunlimited1, Sun Mar 20 17:37:50 2005
• RE: How many Everglades morphs? How about some pictures? - Dwight Good, Wed Mar 16 16:59:27 2005
• That's good advice Dwight.... - crimsonking, Wed Mar 16 19:38:02 2005
• I have no idea.... - crimsonking, Wed Mar 16 18:44:20 2005
• RE: I have no idea.... - Snakesunlimited1, Wed Mar 16 19:36:08 2005
• Some of her babies have .... - crimsonking, Wed Mar 16 19:42:08 2005
• Very nice snake! np. - Nokturnel Tom, Wed Mar 16 21:01:34 2005
• RE: How many Everglades morphs? How about some pictures? - Snakesunlimited1, Wed Mar 16 19:51:34 2005