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Posted by: bcijoe at Tue Mar 29 08:36:08 2005   [ Email Message ] [ Show All Posts by bcijoe ]  
   

I have seen and owned lots of similar animals in my time and have heard of several working with them.
At this time I can only think of 3 names.

When you say Tiger, people think different things.
I've seen many different characteristics on many different ssp of boa constrictor being referred to as 'Tiger', yet appearing totally different.

On one extreme, any boa missng a saddle or two has been called Tiger.
Sometimes the boa has what can be descriped as 'side saddle striping' where the saddles are missing. These seem to be more 'Tigerish' than the former.

I've seen 'Patternless' animals referred to as Tigers, although i'm sure they share some genetic anomolies, the genes obviously work a bit different here.

The new pink patternless... what, an extreme tiger?

For that matter, reverse striping on tails, can probably be related to the reverse striping on the body.... yes/no? hmmm

I think there is still quite a few years of working with these animals before anyone can even call them Tiger's, atleast IMHO.

I know I bought a group of animals from someone's 'PROVEN TIGER LINE', only to find out they were the result of one normal central american, crossed with another different ssp central american that was actually someone ELSE's aberrant 'Tiger' line!


I think some central americans, primarily Hondurans and Costa Ricans, exibit some aberrancies and 'Tiger-like' qualities on a regular basis. This has come to be expected of some offspring, yet others right away call them 'genetic tigers'.

Personally, what I would call Tiger, is perhaps a Colombian Boa, with reduced or missing normal saddles, that will probably have some 'side saddle-striping' (along dorsal edges, not side of body) AND, the saddles they DO have, will be quite different in shape, composition, color, cleanliness, and position, usually more like bands that are off-shape, not exactly parallel to the body. I hope I didn't confuse you too much with that description.


I would call the patternless boas patternless boas, and I would call the central americans aberrant central americans. until proven otherwise.. correctly, through several generations.


In closing, the animals I listed above would be worth, TO ME, between $50 and as much as $5000 or more.

I think when you know what you have, what locality or ssp, and the way the gene works, only then can you put a price on it.


Best wishes.
Joe Rollo - Bci Joe

Pic of aberrant import Honduran Boa

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Thanks and take care - Joe Rollo
'Tis not the stongest of the species that will eventually survive, nor the most intelligent, but the one most responsive to change' Charles Darwin


   

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