I have never claimed to be an expert on anything " even though some around here think that my ego could not fit in a barn " but I do have some good and bad experiances over the last 17yrs that I share to help people out when I can. It is only through trial and error and a certain amount of experimentation, that we AS HOBBYIST are able to find what works to benefit and what causes the demise of our beloved Reptiles. I understand Joey's perception on; " It should be done by a Vet or someone in the Medical field, " BUT BUT how many in the Medical field are holding the " torch " to do any REAL REASEARCH? You can count them on less than one hand and most of them do not have proper funding.WE all, do not have the privaledge of living next door to Douglas E. Mader D.V.M. Most of our local Vets are quick to tell you that they will take in Reptiles to see and treat and will GLADLY take your money, BUT wether you guys like it or not or wether you guys think I am an ass or not, most of them do not know " scat from shinola " on how to properly treat Reptiles.The best info out there on how to treat alot of illnesses and how to keep Reptiles alive and healthy and also how to kill the poor things; " comes from Hobbyist that really take the time to oserve their animals and take notes. " So, when it comes to Vitamins; " I have used them for 10yrs now and have seen nothing but benefit from them in the dosages and the brand that I use. " What are those benefits? Well, " They have a bright irredescent sheen to them at all times and they are more active and not just flopped in the corner of the cage most of the time and they have very strong muscle tone and their appetite is more aggressive even though I do not powerfeed and here is a weird one, their defecation and urates are much more fresh smelling, wich my Acidophilus plays a part in that also. " So, is all of this " just in my imagination? " It very well could be guys, but I feel strong about it and it works for me. This, like alot of things is " personnal preference. " I am not a Vet, but would I reccommend a occasional supplement based on my own experiance?......YES.......Johnson Herp

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