First of let me say I am so sorry I ever said anything. Its one of those topics on KS that is good to stay away from (in my opinion), unless you like controversy. Fortunately no one here has lost their marbles or their sense of humor...yet.

Let me just share an observation with you guys. I often go to this local petstore just to drop in and say hi. I used to go there for feeders and I would end up chatting with the employees about my animals. I thought if I mentioned what I had in my collection they wouldn't profile me as one of those "new to the hobby" beginners(not thats anything to be ashamed of). A bunch of nice people in there so it was cool. Sometimes after a long day I would just go in and watch the monitors crawl around and pet the tortoise...kinda theraputic. So I recently lost my job and told them I would pick up a few hours there for fun. Now im on the other side of the counter for only one day and my perspective has changed. All kinds of people drop in and hang out and try to drop latin names of animals and discuss their impressive reptile related experience and contoversial knowledge....blah blah blah...Just like me, people seem to have something to prove. The topic of madagasgar ground boas comes up... The issue up for debate is if a ground boa has any connecting saddles or pattern across it's back then it has to be crossed with a dumerils somewhere along the line....yada yada... Everyone insists that they know some pro that told them this or that and here we are again like with the friggin' hypo boa topic. At this point im thinking im soooooooo over it! Sometimes all this "I know more than you" controversy just makes me want to vomit on my shoes! This whole "reptile clique" thing is enough to gag a maggot! I would have rather helped set up a young kid with his first bearded dragon, and skip on the whole p!$$!ing contest. The sooner I conclude that I know nothing, stay away from the controversy, just smile and listen the better off I am.

Here are my pics to PROOVE that I have something RARE and BRED it and PRODUCED something (infertile eggs thankyouverymuch), and that I have EXPENSIVE MORPHS that are POPULAR and especiaslly my SALMON from RICH IHLE (namedropping). Right now im working on the first sunglow motley african housesnake...sweet huh! Muhahahahaahaaaaaaa

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