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You are correct. That really is the problem.

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Posted by: JohnLokken at Mon May 9 10:55:09 2005   [ Email Message ] [ Show All Posts by JohnLokken ]  
   

Too many people are coming up with what a Pastel is. It's actually pretty simple. A line bred animal that has an overall reduction in black. That's it. Anything else does not fit the founder's description of what a pastel is.

As an "expert" LOL! hopefully the more I write it........The more people will come to understand the definition. I have a vested interest because I love pastels. I own a ton of them! I want to own MORE!

Where I think the true confusion lies is in the "degree" of the Pastel nature an animal possess. There is a sliding scale in my opinion. Some are better than others.

This is where experience with the animal comes in. IMHO. This is what also makes it a BUYER'S BEWARE purchase. If I were new to "the game".........I would be looking at a lot of animals that would be considered great looking pastels. This is the direction you want to move twords when purchasing an animal. You need to look at the parents of the animals to see what they look like. (There are anomilies. But I'm not getting into that.)



I'll be honest. When I first got into pastels years ago. I almost bought an animal that really would be considered a "lower grade" pastel. Luckly, I went to Ronne and talked with him about the trait before the purchase. I ended up not buying the one and bought two of his Lucy bloodline pastels. It was the best pastel move I could have ever made. The female I bought from him is still just as beautiful as ever. The babies she produced far suprassed my expectations. This is to just illistrate a point. In the beginning..........I didn't know what a good pastel was. I needed to train my eye.

Ok, now I have to go paint the base trim in our house. Lucky me!

John



















>>I want to see the new Pastel Schmastel up in lights

>>

>>This thread has gotten crazy, as I somehow knew it would. Everyone has their interpretation and opinion as to what a "pastel" is and that's the main problem. There is no kind of standard. I think a normal appearing boa that is from a "proven" line of "pastels" should be called as it is.. a normal. Just because people are inherently greedy shouldn't make for all normal boas from "pastel" litters to automatically be classified as "pastel".

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>>I want to be involved in the Daytona challenge... sign me up!

>>

>>Thanks,

>>

>>Guy Scavone II

>>Living Art Herpetology
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"To be the best..........You must lose your mind."


   

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