I do not know if anyone remembers, but I and a few friends in Tucson started this crossing stuff. We crossed most all of the montane kings. Started in the early seventies. I actually do not consider them different species, more like intergrades, better yet, crosses but not hybrids. As their breeding patterns and such, are the same. That is, Getulus kings have different copulation times then montane kings, milksnakes have different times then both, etc.



Well heres the sad story or happy story, I have nothing against hybrids or crosses.



Recently at the inducement of a couple of friends, I have started breeding kingsnakes again. I started producing kings in 1964 and produced them for over 3 decades. But its been awhile.



Ok heres what happened, I bred varible kings last year. I put them together this year when the female started to show ovum(palpated) She killed him dead. Thinking it was an accident, I put in another male(from one of the above friends) she killed him dead too, within minutes. What the heck, a Hannibel lecter female. So I said, to the witch(actually the other word) I putting you in with a cal king(black&white, real nice) So I did/am still. Well the dang things are breeding like normal. I was hoping he would eat her, or she would try to kill him and get her butt kicked.



So now I am wondering(i understand, you have to get eggs first) what the heck will the product of this look like? has anyone done a milksnake tharyi to a black and white desert king? could be interesting and the offspring could be real killers, hahahahahahahahahaha (getulus father and hannibel lecter mother) Thanks Frank Retes

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