Thanks, thats some very interesting material. Over what kind of a time period (on average if thats known) are you talking about being exposed to a certain venom before something like that would happen? I dont know if youve seen it or not but there is a guy who deals with venomous snakes and injects himself every day or week with small amounts of venom, but not directly in his veins. I think hes been doing it for years and hasnt had any problems. Im not sure that its necassarily helped him either. Is he just lucky not to have become hypersensitive or is it a low number of people who this happens to? One last thing, is anything known about how much "venom" a hognose can/does inject and do they control that amount depending on the situation: feeding, defense, and just plain chewing Thanks for the info. EP

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