thanks matt this past season has been emotionally taxing to say the least so far i have had 4 slug outs, 1 surprise pregnacy that resulted in 31 slugs, 5 still born hypos, 2 live hypo females and 1.2 normals how's that for a litter? im also expecting a litter of hypo to hypos(i think) any day now and hopefully a litter of brazilian amerilis due in mid to late july hopefully those will come through for me. its been a pretty bad year here and i dont know why? the only thing i can think of that might have messed me up was the 4 hurricanes we had in a row here last summer/fall. oh well better luck next year

john

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