> The point would be responsible use of wildlife resources.



While I doubt that I would keep 20 alterna (particularly Val Verde snakes) were I to catch that many in a season, I'm not sure that its "irresponsible". I think its still well within the parameters of "sustainable take". The 20 is certainly averaged out against 0 and 1 or 2 that most other collectors turn up with. Of course, I can't imagine getting that many in Val Verde - I'd get bored and head west for more of a challenge LOL.



> Let's take Zonata for example, in your own backyard. If it

> were legal to take 10 everytime you hit the field, would you

> do it? I doubt it very seriously.



Not the same thing. Apples and Oranges and all. You collect zonata off of hibernacula, and you can collect them in large numbers on any given day. Alterna you collect in their active season, and unless you get ridiculously lucky, you rarely find more than 1 or 2 a night (I know of someone finding 6 in one night off of Langtry, and that's the most I've ever heard of . . . ). You can get 10-20 zonata in a day in the right places without trying too hard.



> I "think" what Chris is saying is this "How many 277 or

> Langtry alterna do you need for a nice breeding colony?".



I think that 3 or 4 pair of nice animals would be about it for me, especially considering I keep a wide variety of snakes (I have 2 pair of 277s) . . . UNLESS I was going to focus solely on that location (like Dan did with the Gaps).



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