one was actually picking up animals ( in this case alterna ). I keep bringing up some folks of past without naming names and mean no harm, no ill-feelings or anything along any lines related to the latter. But I have known people that go down and are somewhat of a icon > ? to the alterna multiple finding group that when they don't find one in a trip, you can sure tell that they are depressed about it ! LOL ! I have learned a long time ago, as well as others I'm sure, that even if you see NO herps at all, it still my venue of the country of loving the area and the s-l-o-w down of fast pace society. I have also noticed that many collectors, and myself now, that use to ( how to put this without stepping on toes here or someone take this wrong ) might of collected >? more than was necessary >? multiple species for whatever reason >? are more into picture taking these days. And to meet up with past folks whether they are herpers are business owners or even making their homes down there.
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I may be old , cantankerous, crabby, and cynical, but......

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