They are from a male purpotedly from San Antonio Zoo stock that I bought from Jimi Hunt and a female that I got in 1996 at the San Diego Show from I don't remember who but he said it was Applegate/Ruiz stock. The male is dark gray/burgendy and has no bars on the sides(like the 3rd and 4th babies) and the female is medium gray with a long split nuchal.
That 3rd male you posted, I agree, is very cool.

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