John and all others, thanks!
I have posted pics of the parents in the past as well as where I got them, I thought I was the old one who couldn't remember stuff - lol. Anyway, they are from Dr. Mark Wolfenson, his stuff is mostly Vivid with a few others thrown in for a good mix; including Dan V and mountain Kings (I am terible with names). My buddy has a bunch too so I have a ready source for some outcrossing. He had a terrible year though, two female Thayeri's laid in the water container (empty the water befor they are suppose to lay) and the third only gave him three good eggs with a second clutch in the oven.

Here are some pics of my breeders, the leonis female (thin reduced black bands) is a real knock out in person. The male has gotten a little gray in his old age, just came in this year. The MSP female has kept her bright color pretty well.

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