I'd have to look where Springfield, Oregon is on a map to give

you a guess. They look more like California Redsided or Valley garters

than they do Oregon Redspotted. If Springfield is in southwestern

Oregon then I would say California Redsided. If Springfield is

in Eastern, Northeastern or northcentral Oregon I would say Valley.



>>I dropped by a friends property in Springfield, Oregon while on vacation last week.. She offered to take me out to herp her property, so I told her i'd love some Red Spot garters, as they are among my favorites.. We managed to find a single pair during the hottest part of the day.. I was pretty certain they were Oregon Red Spots, until I saw some photos of some Red Sideds that looked exactly like them... Which do you think they are?

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>>They both shed on the trip home. The female is very large, around 3ft and already took a jumbo f/t mouse. Male is much much smaller(natureally), around 2ft, but is much nicer looking...

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• Oregon Red Spot, or Red Sided? *pics* - Kestrel, Sat Sep 3 13:49:34 2005
• RE: Oregon Red Spot, or Red Sided? *pics* - TomDickinson, Sat Sep 3 16:39:39 2005
• RE: Oregon Red Spot, or Red Sided? *pics* - rhallman, Sat Sep 3 17:41:42 2005
• RE: Oregon Red Spot, or Red Sided? *pics* - ejhoene, Sat Sep 3 18:20:59 2005
• RE: Oregon Red Spot, or Red Sided? *pics* - rhallman, Sat Sep 3 20:13:23 2005
• RE: Oregon Red Spot, or Red Sided? *pics* - ssssnakeluver, Mon Sep 5 11:45:47 2005
• RE: Oregon Red Spot, or Red Sided? *pics* - rhallman, Tue Sep 6 11:41:46 2005
• RE: Oregon Red Spot, or Red Sided? *pics* - b1eagar, Tue Sep 6 16:27:08 2005
• RE: Oregon Red Spot, or Red Sided? *pics* - ssssnakeluver, Tue Sep 6 16:30:08 2005
• Beautiful.. - Steve_Craig, Sun Sep 4 08:49:28 2005
• RE: Beautiful.. - HotRodHerps, Mon Sep 5 21:07:13 2005
• not exactly - rhallman, Mon Sep 5 21:52:07 2005
• Beautiful pictures! - b1eagar, Wed Sep 7 10:47:02 2005
• Here is a Valley Garter from the Gorge. - b1eagar, Wed Sep 7 10:54:03 2005
• RE: Here is a Valley Garter from the Gorge. - rhallman, Thu Sep 8 11:17:18 2005
• RE: Here is a Valley Garter from the Gorge. - b1eagar, Fri Sep 9 01:06:48 2005
• RE: Here is a Valley Garter from the Gorge. - rhallman, Fri Sep 9 08:38:08 2005
• RE: Here is a Valley Garter from the Gorge. - peterA, Sun Sep 11 07:16:22 2005
• RE: Here is a Valley Garter from the Gorge. - peterA, Sun Sep 11 07:19:59 2005
• RE: Here is a Valley Garter from the Gorge. - b1eagar, Tue Sep 13 02:03:38 2005
• RE: Here is a Valley Garter from the Gorge. - electrokate, Wed Nov 16 17:02:17 2005