Mike I have a question for you shouldn't you know state regulations and laws before collecting. What if queen snakes were endangered in PA, and you were collecting them would this seem right?? Just not from and ethical point of view, but also from a legal point of view. Also did it ever dawn on you that snakes are becoming more and more rare in your area because of collection??possibly your collection, duh. Also in a previous post you stated what is the difference between snakes eating eachother in the wild and snakes eating eachother in your tanks. Well once again lets think. If you take a queen snake out of the wild and let's say that was going to be a meal for a wild ringneck snake. Then either that wild ringneck is going to eat another queen snake or it may possibly starve. So therefore, you taking queen snakes out of the wild it will adversely affect something, whether it is the queen snakes or the ringnecks, your disrupting the food chain. Also mike if you can't afford to buy food for your snakes then you most likely can't afford to raise your snakes properly since pets and animals require alot of care. Mike I'm not trying to cure your ignorance, I'm just trying to enlighten you to how your words are perceived.

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• Field Report 9/10/05 - Rare Observation - HerperHelmz, Sat Sep 10 16:57:10 2005
• RE: Field Report 9/10/05 - Rare Observation - dragoncjo, Sat Sep 10 18:55:06 2005
• RE: Field Report 9/10/05 - Rare Observation - HerperHelmz, Sat Sep 10 19:25:32 2005
• RE: Field Report 9/10/05 - Rare Observation - dragoncjo, Sat Sep 10 20:06:42 2005
• RE: Field Report 9/10/05 - Rare Observation - HerperHelmz, Sat Sep 10 21:14:11 2005
• RE: Field Report 9/10/05 - Rare Observation - umop_apisdn, Mon Sep 12 16:39:45 2005
• Some people refuse to learn... - Mike M., Mon Sep 12 18:15:11 2005
• RE: You make me sick - HerperHelmz, Mon Sep 12 23:26:49 2005
• RE: You make me sick - Erik - NM, Mon Sep 12 23:36:28 2005
• RE: You make me sick..... ? lol n/p - Mike M., Tue Sep 13 00:36:59 2005
• RE: The only times - HerperHelmz, Tue Sep 13 17:37:10 2005
• If it's going to be released, why collect in the first place? nt - Mike M., Tue Sep 13 00:39:47 2005
• RE: If it's going to be released, why collect in the first place? nt - dragoncjo, Tue Sep 13 11:47:28 2005
• RE: If it's going to be released, why collect in the first place? nt - dragoncjo, Tue Sep 13 11:59:25 2005
• RE: Ooooooh. Hurtful words dude - HerperHelmz, Tue Sep 13 17:49:37 2005
• RE: Ooooooh. Hurtful words dude - swwit, Tue Sep 13 18:45:18 2005
• RE: ....... - HerperHelmz, Tue Sep 13 19:30:28 2005
• problems with re release - Scott Eipper, Wed Sep 14 03:19:47 2005
• RE: problems with re release - HerperHelmz, Wed Sep 14 06:12:00 2005
• RE: problems with re release - Deinagkistrodon, Wed Sep 14 10:42:21 2005
• Okay Folks...Concerning below... - gratefuldead, Fri Sep 16 00:01:50 2005
• RE: Okay Folks...Concerning below... - gratefuldead, Fri Sep 16 00:03:40 2005
• RE: Okay Folks...Concerning below... - Mike M., Mon Sep 19 21:50:10 2005