return to main index

  mobile - desktop
follow us on facebook follow us on twitter follow us on YouTube link to us on LinkedIn
 
Click here for Dragon Serpents
This Space Available
3 months for $50.00
Locate a business by name: click to list your business
search the classifieds. buy an account
events by zip code list an event
Search the forums             Search in:
News & Events: Jon Poff talks Kingsnake.com with Trap talk . . . . . . . . . .  Herp Photo of the Day: Gecko . . . . . . . . . .  Colorado Herp Society Meeting - Nov 15, 2025 . . . . . . . . . .  Chicago Herpetological Society Meeting - Nov 16, 2025 . . . . . . . . . .  San Diego Herp Society Meeting - Nov 18, 2025 . . . . . . . . . .  Suncoast Herp Society Meeting - Nov 22, 2025 . . . . . . . . . .  DFW Herp Society Meeting - Nov 22, 2025 . . . . . . . . . .  Tucson Herpetological Society Meeting - Nov 24, 2025 . . . . . . . . . .  Bay Area Herpetological Society Meeting - Nov 28, 2025 . . . . . . . . . .  Greater Cincinnati Herp Society Meeting - Dec 03, 2025 . . . . . . . . . .  Southwestern Herp Society Meeting - Dec 06, 2025 . . . . . . . . . .  Kentucky Reptile Expo - Dec. 06, 2025 . . . . . . . . . . 

RE: The license won't do you any good...

[ Login ] [ User Prefs ] [ Search Forums ] [ Back to Main Page ] [ Back to Field Notes & Observations ]

Posted by: chris_mcmartin at Sat Sep 17 09:29:07 2005   [ Email Message ] [ Show All Posts by chris_mcmartin ]  
   

Anybody in CA can own two Sauromalus ater without a license.

The law "as written" could be interpreted to mean you need a license even to possess, even if they were purchased. I've seen discussions of other states' laws where the law is interpreted as meaning you have to have a license that was valid for the time the animals were acquired (e.g. if I were to catch two chucks on 20 Sep, I would need to hold on to my license for 20 Sep for as long as I owned the chucks. I have no idea as to how you could prove WHEN you actually caught the lizards!).

Of course, the enforcement of the "letter of the law" is lax in this scenario. I don't see LE following people home from the pet store to check if they have proper permits for Cal kings!

You don't need a license to keep chuckwallas you might have bought, so as long as you acquired the animals legally,

Always keep receipts for purchased natives.

The DFG agent I spoke to the other day went on to assure me that the limit was two animals per person, so there's no problem giving two to your wife, another two to your daughter, another two to your son, and keeping two yourself.

This exact scenario was brought up on another forum. It seems the law's "meaning" or "intent" is in the eyes of the individual warden/agent you talk to. Did you get the agent's name? There are a couple out there who tend to enforce the laws differently than others.

Warden Kyle Chang told me I couldn't take banded geckos I caught (with a valid license) out of state (untrue), but I honored that interpretation and had CA residents gift some to me (those folks were using them as feeders--another bizarre way to follow the letter of the law, if not the spirit: Possess two until they're eaten by your snakes, then go catch two more, repeat as necessary; yet I can't start a breeding colony!).
-----
Chris McMartin
www.mcmartinville.com
I'm Not a Herpetologist, but I Play One on the Internet


   

[ Hide Replies ]


>> Next topic:  Palm Springs moonlight cruise... - lateralis, Fri Sep 16 00:06:51 2005
<< Previous topic:  Gainesville Area - deinagkistrodon, Wed Sep 14 08:11:50 2005