I really have no need to pursuade you or others of anything. But it seems your trying to pursuade me. Or to bait me? perhaps.



The point is very clear. The history of monitor husbandry is very very poor, that is, its rare for varanid keepers to allow life events. This was and is, to this day, very true.



Arguements arise of many sorts, which is better which is worse, etc etc etc. The point is, what has shown better results now. Not what is perfect or best twenty years from now. What is better then yesterdays results?



Those who commonly show satisfactory results, are not so concerned with such petshop and scientific paradigns as UV and suppliments, and such. The reason is, we have satisfactory results.



Until results from those who back all this and that are expressed to equal or exceed those who do not use UV or suppliments or varied diets, then there is no merit for discussion. You can theorize until your blue in the face. Look up theory(unproven)Once complicated results meet these basic approaches, ones such as mind, then I would consider entertaining them as valid. I have been waiting patiently.



Also, it seems you refuse to read carefully, you often cite extremes, like only mice and only crickets. While those were tested and have worked(still testing). I do not recoment that or do that on a widespread basis. I have said that a million times. But of course, if you actually read what I have said, then you would not have such an extreme example to compare too. You would lose your shock value.



You also forget the questions asked. If the question is, are mice alone a successful diet for medium monitors, the answer would be yes. But if the question was, what diet addresses both the physical and mental needs of medium monitors, the answer would be different. It would be as I recomend, a base diet of whole rodents, with the addition of whole prey items is very good. You see, thats what I do.



The real question is, for beginers, wouldn't it be eaiser and better for them to understand something that works and is easy and could expand upon later. Then have to experiment with all sorts of things they do not understand? You know, mostly from theory.



But then, hey, its not my problem. And what you do is also not my problem. To be sure, I don't have a problem with diet with my monitors. They grow big and strong with no bone desease and experience life events. So all this typing is only to help others, if they want help, if they don't, then again, its not my problem either. They don't have to consider any of this. Consider= think about in some depth. After all, anything on this board is only food for thought. FR

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