return to main index

  market - home
follow us on facebook follow us on twitter link to us on LinkedIn
 
Click here for Dragon Serpents
Locate a business by name: click to list your business
search the classifieds. buy an account
events by zip code list an event
Search the forums             Search in:
News & Events: NARBC shows how the reptile community comes together . . . . . . . . . .  kingsnake.com is coming to Tinley NARBC . . . . . . . . . .  Kingsnake battles a Rattlesnake . . . . . . . . . .  An Educational Roundup? . . . . . . . . . .  The battle for survival for the Ibiza wall lizards . . . . . . . . . .  Bringing back the Horned Lizard . . . . . . . . . .  UGA Study shows pathogens threaten snakes survival in Southern US . . . . . . . . . .  First time Sea Turtle nesting in Florida . . . . . . . . . .  New regulations on Native Species for Wisconsin Keepers . . . . . . . . . .  Heavy Metal Scorpion . . . . . . . . . .  How a python change the course of Attenbourgh's life . . . . . . . . . .  Make good choices . . . . . . . . . .  Burmese found on roadside in Wisconsin raises issues . . . . . . . . . .  Happy Earth Day . . . . . . . . . .  Kingsnake Merch Store . . . . . . . . . .  Kingsnake returns to Tinley . . . . . . . . . .  kingsnake.com joins Monitor Brains! . . . . . . . . . .  Sneak Peek . . . . . . . . . .  Amphibian gut bacteria showing promise in cancer research . . . . . . . . . .  Herp Photo of the Day . . . . . . . . . .  Herp Photo of the Day . . . . . . . . . .  Meet The Baroness - The world's longest snake . . . . . . . . . .  Herp Photo of the Day . . . . . . . . . .  Updates? . . . . . . . . . .  Herp Photo of the Day . . . . . . . . . .  The mechanics behind the viper strike . . . . . . . . . .  Snakes on a Train? . . . . . . . . . .  Tracking the animals in the Florida Everglades - Meet the Croc Docs . . . . . . . . . .  Reintroduction attempts give San Francisco Garter a second chance . . . . . . . . . .  Promoting Reptiles is Our Jam Man . . . . . . . . . .  Reptile Super Show & LA Pet Fair - July 11-12 2026 . . . . . . . . . .  PACNWRS - Jul. 11-12, 2026 . . . . . . . . . .  Colorado Herp Society Meeting - July 18, 2026 . . . . . . . . . .  Chicago Herpetological Society Meeting - July 19, 2026 . . . . . . . . . .  Bay Area Herpetological Society Meeting - July 24, 2026 . . . . . . . . . .  DFW Herp Society Meeting - July 25, 2026 . . . . . . . . . .  Tucson Herpetological Society Meeting - July 27, 2026 . . . . . . . . . .  Greater Cincinnati Herp Society Meeting - Aug 05, 2026 . . . . . . . . . .  PACNWRS - Aug. 15-16, 2026 . . . . . . . . . .  Colorado Herp Society Meeting - Aug 15, 2026 . . . . . . . . . . 

improper categorization?

[ Login ] [ User Prefs ] [ Search Forums ] [ Back to Main Page ] [ Back to Monitors ]

Posted by: casichelydia at Tue Oct 4 00:34:21 2005   [ Email Message ] [ Show All Posts by casichelydia ]  
   

Aaaw, I might use longer-than-average-monitor-keeper sentances, but, only because I like to encourage consideration about the same base factors you tend to state as irrelevant since results have been acheived, even though those results are from applying those very factors I discuss. Whups, another long sentence already. There I go taking the fun out of things, haha. It seems almost as though you feel people shouldn't think about what works. Don't think about WHY whole prey works, just know, it DOES work. That being the case, I wouldn't say I'm taking away any fun, since these are all just words. All of the real fun is in watching successful animals (captive or no) and we can't do that while looking at a computer screen. I know, I know, we read your results on the screen and are coached on how to get those successful animals to watch, grin.



Achieving an understanding for thermoregulation (and other such crucial non-theoretical principles) is more easily achieved by reading about how it applies across the board to all heliothermic (basking-prone) animals (bear in mind, as always, I'm not referring to any group- or species-specific papers) rather than starting with no self-understood base and trying to acquire one from watching cluelessly-maintained monitors. No one successful with monitors started from such a true ground-zero point. The better a base knowledge foundation of physiology/behavior people have for why monitors can prove the "simple" captives they do, the fewer misguided detail questions will be asked as new problems expose themselves. As you know, new little wrikles come all the time.



The significant difference between my approach for discussing captive animals and your approach, as it seems to me, you don't (initially) elaborate on much. Do understand, my posts are not about me trying to say something contrary, or using a roundabout regime of guesswork to try to re-invent the wheel of successful captive monitor husbandry, or making rules, or trying to prove myself infallible all the time. It seems more of a communicative difference than a true difference in applicable approaches.



You center on that which shows itself to work; I focus on that which repeatedly proves to need correction in many monitor keepers and discuss where that correction originates. Many people seem to rest comfortably in letting you do all of the problem solving for them. The more people who can answer (reason) their own basic husbandry questions, the fewer emails you have to send containing a price plus an explanation about temperatures, or humidities, or, you pick it. Then again, it's your time, not mine. While you're doing that, I can be busy gleefully "theorizing." Better yet, if people would just try to comprehend and apply the principles that I run so many words over, you would have far fewer questions to answer and consequently more spare time to post pictures that are worth a thousand, no, a million, of my words.


   

[ Hide Replies ]


>> Next topic:  V. indicus (for those who can appreciate them) - JPsShadow, Fri Sep 30 17:53:16 2005
<< Previous topic:  A few more - aera, Fri Sep 30 11:12:44 2005

DM Exotics Youtube Click here to visit Classifieds Click to visit Classifieds
KINGSNAKE.COM

Enjoy all our content free of charge with a user account that gives you full access to every feature. For added visibility, paid options are available - post in our Classifieds, showcase your business with Banner Ads or a Directory listing, promote reptile events, and more.

Quick Links
Community
Legal & Safety
Support

Register for free ✓ Sign up!

Kingsnake.com ® is a registered trademark © 1997-