That ia really the main point that I was trying to make in all of my ramblings. We can talk about Geography and elevations and all of that, all that we want to, but the fact remains that we are dealing with animals were there have been very little REAL research done on a number of issues concerning our beloved Boas, " subspecies, species and color variances and breeding behavior and feeding behavior ect.ect. " I have been accused incorrectly as saying; " All Boas are the same " and I do not believe that at all. What I believe is that there is genetic isolation in some areas and or the wild equivalent of selective breeeding in certain areas. I do believe that 90% of the differences, in all " Boa constrictors " is more color and pattern variances than anything that would divide " certain ones " into subspecies. I have done scale counts on Guyanas, that are the same as Peruvians that I have had. I have done scale counts on Columbians, that were the same as Peruvians I have had, ect.ect. I am not saying; " Breed whatever you want as far as different localities, but in most cases, you have to just go with what you know. " A very respected breeder of Surinames told me one time," Everything in my collection is PURE FROM SURINAME. " I told him; " I bet you a years salary that you are wrong, because I know the shipments that some of your original lines came from and they were caught and imported from Guyana. " He has not talked to me since and that was 10yrs ago. Point being, sometimes fantasy is better than reality or maybe sometimes, we are just to gullable. Would you believe that this is a Suriname? In my own collection, as well I am sure as many of you guys,we have many examples of how variable ALL OF these Boa Constrictors can be. How do I know that this one is a Suriname for just one example? It said it on the box and that is as good as it gets for most all of us........Johnson Herp

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• The problem with classifying south Brazilian amarali (and boas in general). (Long, but cool pics) - Barry Miller, Tue Oct 4 23:18:40 2005
• LOL !!!!!! kick his butt Barry !!!!!! LOL - koky6869, Tue Oct 4 23:37:55 2005
• very educational post, thanks...n/p - davel, Tue Oct 4 23:50:50 2005
• I second that! NP - Trueredtails, Tue Oct 4 23:55:53 2005
• Why do I come up with crazy ideas like Brazils are Bolivians??? - SuppleReptiles, Wed Oct 5 00:53:01 2005
• PLEASE READ......... - madisonrecords, Wed Oct 5 09:47:28 2005
• Sao Paulo is actually at an elevation of around 2,700 feet....NP - bthacker, Wed Oct 5 10:04:59 2005
• RE: Sao Paulo is actually at an elevation of around 2,700 feet....NP - madisonrecords, Wed Oct 5 10:27:23 2005
• RE: Sao Paulo is actually at an elevation of around 2,700 feet....NP - bthacker, Wed Oct 5 10:50:07 2005
• RE: Sao Paulo is actually at an elevation of around 2,700 feet....NP - SRX, Wed Oct 5 11:37:48 2005
• That is right, SRX........ - madisonrecords, Wed Oct 5 12:29:09 2005
• my question is... - cory_b, Wed Oct 5 13:53:39 2005
• RE: my question is... - Trueredtails, Wed Oct 5 14:22:03 2005
• RE: - cory_b, Wed Oct 5 14:30:49 2005
• RE: my question is... - agentcooper0103, Wed Oct 5 14:51:40 2005
• RE: my question is... - VFR, Wed Oct 5 15:38:10 2005
• RE: my question is... - agentcooper0103, Wed Oct 5 15:48:18 2005
• we are not comparing morphs to amarali... - cory_b, Wed Oct 5 15:57:42 2005
• don't mean to point out the obvious... - davel, Wed Oct 5 16:07:46 2005
• to me, Cory's question is more important, than the who know more argument - davel, Wed Oct 5 16:17:48 2005
• RE: to me, Cory's question is more important, than the who know more argume - agentcooper0103, Wed Oct 5 16:28:48 2005
• RE: we are not comparing morphs to amarali... - VFR, Wed Oct 5 16:29:09 2005
• since no experience myself, I would start by... - davel, Wed Oct 5 16:37:36 2005
• no problem... it's all good - cory_b, Wed Oct 5 20:21:46 2005
• The flaw in your argumentation (more...) - H+E Stoeckl, Wed Oct 5 20:49:45 2005
• Another one ... - H+E Stoeckl, Wed Oct 5 20:50:51 2005