I have brought up some valid points, and no one has really answered my questions.

Why were these snakes considered rare investments snakes one and two years ago and why are they worthless now?

I am also wondering why the Ghost and other morphs came down so much and is being dragged down with the Snow?

Now Jon, you are really confusing me on this point. In two sentences back to back no less you say..."I produced them for the joy of it. Now there are here and I want them gone.



You produce them for the joy of it but now you want them gone? Yet many breeders act like the money is not such a big part of it but you started the biggest collection of Snows on Earth? You are going to tell me getting a jump on producing so many Snows was not driven by hopes of making money as much as it was love of the morph? Some of this does not ring true, and honestly it doesn't have much to do with my gripe. The title of my initial thread was in reference to the classifieds. Way more so than the market price. It was the classifieds and numerous ads with blowout prices that helped doom many of us. You, me, new guys, and guys who have been doing this for years. I fully understand some people overproduced, and I feel for them. I know it is frustrating to go through a whole season and finally produce snakes and then have them sit in your house for lengthy periods of time. My point was this. If many people saw this coming, and these snakes usually hit the classifieds later in the year the other types of colubrids why was there no effort to try and get decent prices for them? The prices hit the calssifieds low, and get lower every week. Like I said, pet shops will now have Honduran Morphs at pet shop prices, and the money guys like us will get for them is a joke compared to previous years. Again. the number jumped from how many Snows thought to be in existance? From 50 to 1000? Is that it? You did not have to go naming names! I never did, and it was not neccesary. All I said was the classifieds were bombarded with cheap morphs and now the snakes value is in the toilet. It very well may have ended up there anyway, but it seemed to me like it was not given much of a chance, and the fact you say you can't wait to get them out the door pisses me off, since that means you would rather take a fraction of what it is worth as opposed to try and maintain some sort of market value, even if that value was priced much lower than anyone had anticipated. If you have hundreds of hatchlings, well I can understand that, but then why the illusion that these snakes[Snows}had a future and that they were rare or investment type animals?!?!?! I know it was not you who solely made these claims, and it doesn't fall into the lap of one person. Am I wrong to say the Snow was looked at as the rarest Honduran morph of them all??? I can tell you it is what many many people who were looking to get into some good projects thought, and that is we people like me got into them. Now I can't be pissed? Only you and the others who had more to lose? I can tell you this, I had people interested in paying pricing similar to last year for Ghosts, now I had had to lower my price to what I paid for Anery Het Hypos a while back. What's in store for next year? I for one will keep the group I have, I enjoy the snakes. But you could not get me to spend my money on any of the new morphs, and it has everything to do with this, and it is my bet a lot of people will agree with me and spend thier money on other projects. Tom Stevens

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