Thanks for the post and compliments. I am using shredded aspen for a substrate. I am thinking of ordering some Cypress mulch from Pro-exotics but it's kinda pricey at almost a hundred to fill both cages. I do have damp spaghnum moss in their hides to keep the humidity up. I have been handling them regularly for short periods like you have suggested and they are perfectly well behaved snakes when they are out, acting better than some other colubrids. I have definitely found a new love as far as snakes go. I have 5 of these guys and plan on getting more.......time to add another snakeroom!!!!

This is my set-up including the rack and tubs for the yearlings. All with black pipes for hides.

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