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RE: Information of German Giants please.

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Posted by: beardiedragon at Thu Oct 13 07:37:37 2005   [ Email Message ] [ Show All Posts by beardiedragon ]  
   

Author: CheriS

Date: Fri Nov 28 22:36:13 2003

Subject: Beardie History 101



p. vitticeps also called Inland bearded dragons because they come from the interior of Australia are found in the Queensland, New South Wales, South Australia and the Northern Territory Areas of that country. The ones from the further west area of the Northern Territory are longer, larger overall and heavier bodied that those found in the others with the ones in north-western Queensland being the smallest.



The majority of bearded dragons in other counties had come from the Queensland, New South Wales and South Australia areas through Tasmania.



A large group of the bigger boned p. vitticeps was brought to Papua, New Guinea from the north west area of the Northern Territory (Papua New Guinea is Northeast of Australia and closest to this area). From there they made their way to Indonesia, the Netherlands and finally ended up in Germany.



The Germans at that time were one of the leading areas of the world in herpetology outside of Australia. Recognizing they had a unique line of bearded dragons, but still vitticeps, they selectively bred those larger dragons to keep that size and heartiness in them.



They are called German Giants, but the Germans did not make them, they occurred in nature. But we do have the Germans to thank for preserving that line and their careful breeding of them. They take very seriously inbreeding and avoid it in their reptiles, preferring more to seek out health and vitality than colors... they had an advantage also in that there was a good size gene pool to work with from these.



I have talked to one of the people that received several of these large boned dragons and one of the females he got, a large dull brown female, never laid eggs under the count of in the 40's and had clutches in the 50-60's.



Kevin Dunne, of Dragons Den, a few years ago had a large female that laid eggs in the 60's also, I think it was 68. I suspect (do not know) that female probably came from this line also



Below is a German Giant adult female with a 1/2 GGxpastel adult and a regular adult vitticeps, you can see the bone structure and growth difference. The smaller one is around 400 grams.



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Hope that helps. I have many large BDs that are not Germans. Raising them outdoors in the Florida sunshine is a plus. Currently my biggest baby is 5 months old, 20" and over 300 grams. Yes that's right, 5 months old. I have other large babies and some with German Giant bloodlines as well. If you are interested, ylou can check my site since there will be a BIG sale this weekend. Contact me off list for more info.



I do have some big BDs



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