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I agree with Mark but will add:

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Posted by: topnotchboas at Thu Nov 3 18:18:54 2005   [ Email Message ] [ Show All Posts by topnotchboas ]  
   

that subjectiveness plays a crucial role in this. Unfortunately, P.Kahl has not defined the exact characteristics that deems an albino coral or not. Exactly how much coloration? Does it have to have head color? Does it have to be a certain type of color?

All we can do is look at the examples that Pete has sold and make our own subjective opinions from there. I am now confident that coral albinos are not a bloodline, but a phenotype (ie a certain look). If it were a bloodline (such as monstertail hypos or jungle boas for example, one being a polygenic phenotype the other a single gene mutation) then no one would be able to call their boa coral, regardless of how it looked... they would have to be able to trace the lineage back to the coral bloodline. But, its a "look", not a bloodline. In this regard, some may argue "Well, the original corals spawned from one of the original breedings", as if all Kahl albinos out there descended from this original pairing. That is not the case, the original male(s?) were placed with multiple females producing offspring... ONE of the het albinos from that pairing is where corals are said to have derived from.

Ironicly, Mark and I went back and forth in this issue a ways back and pretty much hashed out all the details, I'm sure Mark remembers .

So coral is subjective. Just like pastels are subjective. Pastel is defined by a reduction of black, how much reduction in black? You decide. It varies opinion to opinion. It's the same with corals. Until Pete defines some parameters narrowing it down, thats how it will be.

Having said that, I do not believe Andy's albino is a coral. It has some body coloration, yes. But not near enough to be deemed coral in my subjective opinion.


   

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