Lloyd Lemke taught me this method many years ago and i have used it successfully on dumerils,hogs,BCI,and BCA,ETB(be very careful!) i am sure it works on many others, it does not work on BP's, but i did try it on JCP succesfully and recently on my first GTP and felt the tip of the hemipene (Lloyd described it as a rubber band "snapping back", i cant imagine probing or using a magnifying glass when this method is so simple and fast.thanks, john yocum

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