Hi Michael,
I totally agree with you on the practices of some zoos and zoo keepers = and this is not only a Thailand/S.E. Asia things, and does/did apply to some USA zoos that also did this in the past...with unscrupilous zoo keepers/personel eager for their own monetary and 'collections'.

Why fr would say you are predudice again the 'history of the species' makes no sense or applies to the question - although V. olivaceus is protected in Philippines as Endangered, they are registered as Appendix II on CITES....and such animals brought into the USA = awhile ago a pair came in, and reside in Southern California last I heard were brought in by a single person, who was interested in selling them for awhile...I guess they are for sale again...

markb

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