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RyanHomsey
at Sat Jan 7 23:07:36 2006 [ Email Message ] [ Show All Posts by RyanHomsey ]
Ive spoken with Pete numerous times now on Jungles and how to make the determination as to which are and which arent. Recently I have been talking with him about determining albino jungles, which is even harder.
A few things he mentioned to me recently that is often not spoken of:
1. Circles around the edge of many of the saddles. Yes, this can and does happen often with normals but it seems to happen more consistantly with Jungles. Mine has them... and I just looked at Celia's kingsnake ad with multiple jungles and all of hers have it. Here is a picture that Peter Kahl sent me to help explain what I am reffering to:
At this link you can see a few of Celias that show the same thing http://market.kingsnake.com/detail.php?cat=8&de=360673
2. More prominant head striping versus a normal. This aspect is harder for me to see. But nevertheless Pete mentioned it to me.
Other more commonly known attributes to look for include, obviously not all jungles have these traits ... what occasionally makes them so hard to call is when an individual gets the "short end of the stick" on most of the attributes:
3. Saddle coloration - Typically very consistant throughout the saddle. Often with thin black borders around the edges.
4. Overall intensified coloration - Often extremely apparent by a distinct difference between dorsal and lateral coloration. Like "Someone took a pain roller down their back", as I've heard someone describe it.
5. Increased white bordering in the tail splotch area.
6. Saddle Aberrancies
When I look at Ed's boa, it could be one of the individuals that got the short end of the stick on many of the above attributes. The aberrancies are unusual and not at all clear enough to label as a jungle to me. It looks to possibly have some increased white around the tail splotches but again... nothing conclusive. Saddle washout looks like a typical nice normal to me. Overall body coloration looks normal. Circles on the edge of the saddles... some but again, not conclusive. It is my opinion that it is probably not a jungle but it is possible.
Just for a one to one comparison here is Ed's above boa slapped up against a picture of my 04 jungle male (with no saddle pattern aberrancy):
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Take Care,
-Ryan Homsey
www.topnotchboas.com
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Im sure I'm the last person you would want to chime in here BUT: - RyanHomsey, Sat Jan 7 23:07:36 2006