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Sonorans born today!!!

chaoscat Jun 19, 2004 11:43 PM

6 live, 1 stillborn (looks to be a hypo ), and 5 slugs. I'm going to leave the male in there longer next time.


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BCIBANDIT Jun 20, 2004 12:19 AM

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kennethzweerink Jun 20, 2004 06:47 AM

Wow that's Great, How old and what size are your Breeders ?
Have A Good One ! !
Kenneth

chaoscat Jun 20, 2004 09:57 AM

>>Wow that's Great, How old and what size are your Breeders ?
>>Have A Good One ! !
>>Kenneth

Both adults are at 5 feet, and nicely patterned.

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carl3 Jun 20, 2004 09:02 AM

That is one awesome group of babies. The one that was still born, did you say it was possibly hypo? I'm curious, was that part of the parent's genetic background? If not, what do you do with an odd baby like that? Freeze it? Photograph it? Was hypo part of the parent's genetic background. I'd keep some form of proof showing that the parents may have a possible hypo gene floating around. Isn't hypo co-dominant? Or are there different forms of hypomelanism in boas? I'm still trying to fully understand boa genetics. Anyway, CONGRATS!
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chaoscat Jun 20, 2004 10:01 AM

>>That is one awesome group of babies. The one that was still born, did you say it was possibly hypo? I'm curious, was that part of the parent's genetic background? If not, what do you do with an odd baby like that? Freeze it? Photograph it? Was hypo part of the parent's genetic background. I'd keep some form of proof showing that the parents may have a possible hypo gene floating around. Isn't hypo co-dominant? Or are there different forms of hypomelanism in boas? I'm still trying to fully understand boa genetics. Anyway, CONGRATS!
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It was possibly a hypo, not sure. Very light colored baby, no black. I took photos of the body for my records, but it was very light colored compared to the rest of the babies. It could also have been caused by temp fluctuations-although I constantly monitored temps and rarely let the hot spot go below 94F the whole time.

I do not know the genetic background on these guys. Last year, another female that I no longer have gave birth to 7 babies, 1 stillborn. One baby and the stillborn were anerythristic in coloration (no red/yellow) and in that case, it could very well have been temp problems. Note that I say "anerythristic in coloration" so that I don't get complained at... seems like some people don't believe a color they see, rather they prefer the color that it is het for.

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EricIvins Jun 21, 2004 01:39 PM

Not to rain on your parade, but most likely that still born didn't have its color fully developed. Usually Temp fluctuations cause pattern defects ( very rare ) or some type of congenital defect ( small eyes, no eyes, skeletal deformities, internal deformities, etc. )

chaoscat Jun 21, 2004 01:47 PM

>>Not to rain on your parade, but most likely that still born didn't have its color fully developed. Usually Temp fluctuations cause pattern defects ( very rare ) or some type of congenital defect ( small eyes, no eyes, skeletal deformities, internal deformities, etc. )
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Note: I never said it WAS a hypo. I said it "seemed to be" which does NOT mean it is.

Regardless, there were no major temp fluctuations throughout the gestation. The baby was much lighter than the others, and had no black like the other babies have. It was fully formed, and it was dead when it came out.

thanks,
Cat
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wetceal Jun 20, 2004 10:25 AM

Sorry to hear about the stillborn but those others look great!

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Sunshine Jun 20, 2004 11:33 AM

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Jeremy Stone Jun 20, 2004 01:23 PM

I LOVE SONORANS. I picked up 6 last year, and I just LOVE them. They are some of my favorite Local Boas. Take Care, and major congrats. Jeremy Stone

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