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a couple bairdi pics

draybar Feb 02, 2006 05:22 PM

A couple of pictures of Sam.
A "full" shot and a CLOSE up....lol

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Corn snakes and rat snakes..No one can have just one.
"resistance is futile"
Jimmy (draybar)

Draybars Snakes

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Replies (7)

mets38 Feb 02, 2006 06:00 PM

Your pictures are the absolute best! Will you be selling any bairdi this year?

draybar Feb 02, 2006 06:37 PM

>>Your pictures are the absolute best! Will you be selling any bairdi this year?

I have two pairs of bairdis I will be breeding this season.
Hopefully things will work out and I few to sell.

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Corn snakes and rat snakes..No one can have just one.
"resistance is futile"
Jimmy (draybar)

Draybars Snakes

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ratsnakehaven Feb 02, 2006 09:55 PM

Jimmy, your bairdi are awesome and I love that pic of the paired apical pits. TC

draybar Feb 03, 2006 05:22 PM

>>Jimmy, your bairdi are awesome and I love that pic of the paired apical pits. TC

They do show up fairly well in that pic don't they?
Looks pretty cool. (for lack of a better descriptive...lol)
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Corn snakes and rat snakes..No one can have just one.
"resistance is futile"
Jimmy (draybar)

Draybars Snakes

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ratsnakehaven Feb 04, 2006 08:37 AM

Your camera does take excellent macro shots.

We don't think about the apical pits much, but they could be quite an interesting sensory organ in snakes. I wonder if all of the Pantherophis group has them? I'm pretty sure guttatus does. That could be a classifying characteristic for the group.

draybar Feb 04, 2006 10:36 AM

>>Your camera does take excellent macro shots.
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>>We don't think about the apical pits much, but they could be quite an interesting sensory organ in snakes. I wonder if all of the Pantherophis group has them? I'm pretty sure guttatus does. That could be a classifying characteristic for the group.
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I will try to get some good closeups of a few of my corns, creams, emoryis and my little black rat and post them here to see if there is a difference in each species or mixed species.
Could be interesting.

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Corn snakes and rat snakes..No one can have just one.
"resistance is futile"
Jimmy (draybar)

Draybars Snakes

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ratsnakehaven Feb 04, 2006 11:38 AM

Snakes are amazingly well adapted to their environments, thus highly evolved and differentiated. And there's still lots we don't know (or the scientists aren't telling us). I remember studying the shed skin of a Persian ratsnake and seeing paired apical pits and thinking it was unusual, because I didn't see that on most Eurasians. Maybe I didn't look close enough, but I know not all snakes have them. Snakes can sometimes have an odd number of pits too. Remember another place snakes can have pits?

I think it's a great idea to examine the Pantherophis species for this characteristic. I think there's bairdi, obsoletus, guttatus (guttatus and emoryi), vulpina, and gloydi. Any others? We could look at comparative species too, like triaspis and subocularis, etc.

Here's a pic of a yellow rat (obsoletus) you posted last spring...

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