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corns and gopher snakes

xblackheart Feb 03, 2006 12:29 AM

Does anyone know if these species can be breed together? I do not want to, I was just wondering if it was possible. I know kings, milk, rats/corns can all be inter-bred, and this gopher looks very similar to them. I was just wondering if it was possible. I am a sucker for useless info
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------Misty-------
Never knock on Death's door. Ring the bell and run. He hates that!

Replies (18)

goregrind Feb 03, 2006 06:31 AM

yes its possible
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jake

my addiction:
2 normal ball pythons (lazlo and izzy)
1 amelenistic corn snake (zyklon)
0.1 blizzard corn (blizz)

Horridus Feb 03, 2006 10:30 AM

Gopher corns were one of the first hybrids proven to be fertile F2 Gen. they have been around for years, but alas they are not that attractive (at least most aren't) and therefore they didn't reach popularity of the king x corn crosses.

Horridus@aol.com

xblackheart Feb 03, 2006 12:37 PM

ya, I would think that they'd be pretty bland color wise. Plus, why would you want a corn with the attitude of a gopher snake. I'll just stick with my corns, kings, jungle corns
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------Misty-------
Never knock on Death's door. Ring the bell and run. He hates that!

Bigfoot Feb 04, 2006 11:28 PM

This male is the result of a cross between a wild caught male cornsnake and what I was told was the F2 of a cornsnake x bullsnake cross.

Bigfoot Feb 04, 2006 11:35 PM

Forgot to mention that the male above behaves like a corn. I mated him to a bullsnake female and got this snake. She behaves more more like a bullsnake.

Bigfoot Feb 04, 2006 11:41 PM

I mated the male above to an amelanistic corn and some of the babies were amelanistic. I crossed one of them to the sister of the male above. I think I let my eggs get too warm last summer because most failed to hatch. Only two of this cross did and one died. Here is the one that lived. I photocopied it just this evening.

candb Feb 05, 2006 07:14 AM

The amel cross looks like it has fat deposits, or is that just the picture?
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Cameron

Bigfoot Feb 05, 2006 10:15 PM

The picture was taken by holding the snake upside down against the computer scanner. I think what you see is due to holding the snake against the glass.

Bigfoot.

goregrind Feb 06, 2006 05:18 AM

it looked like one was trying to bite you so i figured you held them up against glass to avoid a bite
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jake

my addiction:
2 normal ball pythons (lazlo and izzy)
1 amelenistic corn snake (zyklon)
0.1 blizzard corn (blizz)

Bigfoot Feb 06, 2006 10:21 PM

I was trying to hold it still so as to get a good scan. As you see in the scan below, my cat moved his head when I scanned him.
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goregrind Feb 07, 2006 06:07 AM

your cat has funny shaped paws is that why you scanned him?
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jake

my addiction:
2 normal ball pythons (lazlo and izzy)
1 amelenistic corn snake (zyklon)
0.1 blizzard corn (blizz)

Bigfoot Feb 07, 2006 10:43 PM

We once had three cats, one white, one black and one orange. The white one was killed in the road. The black one asked to be let out one day. I opened the door for her and she never came back. Before the last one died of old age, we got a beautiful white kitty. When she was near grown, I took her to the vet to have ear polyps removed. The operation was a success but the patient died.

The vet offered to help us find a new cat so I told him I wanted a Hemingway cat. He found us one - extra toes on all four feet and the sweetest, friendliest personality you could ever hope for. We named him Bigfoot. He was hit by a car and killed.

The vet found us two more Hemingway cats, a brother-sister pair. Their extra toes are on the front feet only. You've seen Yeti. Here's Sasquatch.
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dingoblue Feb 05, 2006 11:07 AM

This animal reminds me of my bull snake rat snake cross with pattern and head shape.

Nice animal. How long is it?

Bigfoot Feb 05, 2006 10:12 PM

She's 2 1/2 years old and 3 feet, 4 inches long. Her father (the first picture above hatched in 1999 and is 4 feet, 5 inches long. His sister is about the same size.

Bigfoot

dingoblue Feb 05, 2006 11:09 PM

I believe that my BullxRat is a 2002/2003. He is over 5 feet, and has brown dorsal and lateral blotches, yellow undertones, a gray head and some orange on the tail. Girth wise, he's probably over two inches at the largest section.

Have you ever bred one of your crosses to a Lampropeltis?

Bigfoot Feb 06, 2006 10:53 PM

>Have you ever bred one of your crosses to a Lampropeltis?

This spring will be my first opportunity. I now have 4 king females (each of a different color or pattern) and a corn x king male of breeding size with more reaching that size next year. The amelanistic corn x bull hybrids I've gotten so far look like corns and I really don't want snakes that can be mistaken for a pure species. I want well behaved snakes (don't bite, defecate or musk when handled) as pretty as what you find on this forum, but bigger.

Bigfoot

goregrind Feb 05, 2006 07:22 AM

why do you hold them up against glass to take pictures?
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jake

my addiction:
2 normal ball pythons (lazlo and izzy)
1 amelenistic corn snake (zyklon)
0.1 blizzard corn (blizz)

Bigfoot Feb 05, 2006 09:31 PM

why do you hold them up against glass to take pictures?

My error. I meant scan, not photocopy. The snakes were held upside down on the scanner.

Bigfoot

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