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When I purchased Spirit a year or so ago I was told she was a Peruvian, I looked at some Peruvian Pictures. Scroll down in forum and she just didnt look right. I brought this up yesterday at the pet store and requested to speek to the breeder and they told me they think she is a Brazilian "WHY DID YOU LIST HER AS A PERUVIAN????" Oh well whats done is done "The pet store realy is a good one just made a mistake" They took my name and number and said the breeder would be calling me, However he only visits once or twice a month so it could take time to get him the message "Why they cant just call him I dont know" Anyway You all know how it is, I dont want to wait LOL I have posted 10 pictures of spirit can anyone tell me if she is Peruvian or Brazilian or??????? On top of that is she any special morph, color or patern or just a normal old ???????? Boa? Thanks a million










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>>When I purchased Spirit a year or so ago I was told she was a Peruvian, I looked at some Peruvian Pictures. Scroll down in forum and she just didnt look right. I brought this up yesterday at the pet store and requested to speek to the breeder and they told me they think she is a Brazilian "WHY DID YOU LIST HER AS A PERUVIAN????" Oh well whats done is done "The pet store realy is a good one just made a mistake" They took my name and number and said the breeder would be calling me, However he only visits once or twice a month so it could take time to get him the message "Why they cant just call him I dont know" Anyway You all know how it is, I dont want to wait LOL I have posted 10 pictures of spirit can anyone tell me if she is Peruvian or Brazilian or??????? On top of that is she any special morph, color or patern or just a normal old ???????? Boa? Thanks a million
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"To be the best..........You must lose your mind."

Usually called "Columbian". I hope they did not sell it to you at an inflated BCC price.
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Delusions of Grandeur feed the EGO...

It was listed at the pet store for $150 However I know them very well and the owner said it started biting her and noone would buy it cause it got pissy everytime they looked at it so she gave it to me for what she said was her cost $90 was that to much?
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I was worried you paid $200-$400 for it.
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Delusions of Grandeur feed the EGO...

I would say there is a slight chance it is a Peruvian X Colombian Integrade, but I would bet on solid colombian bci... your average colombian boa... although she's got a nice yellow tint to her.

Best wishes, Bci Joe
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Thanks and take care - Joe Rollo
'Tis not the stongest of the species that will eventually survive, nor the most intelligent, but the one most responsive to change' Charles Darwin

not boa breeders. It is very uncommon to see a Peruvian or Brazilian in a pet shop. Even when you find a pet shop that handles many reptiles, they would rarely know the difference between Peruvian, Colombian, Brazilian, etc... This is the same reason those new to the hobby call Colombian BCI "REDTAILS". And why when you walk into a pet shop you see Colombian BCI selling as REDTAIL BOAS. Would a newbie rather buy a boa labelled as "Common Colombian Boa" or "Colombian Redtail Boa?" Who wants what is common? And now many stores even have Central Americans selling as redtails. That's my rant. Good pet shops are out there. But you have to look mighty hard to find them, and even then they will not have true locality boas.

Phil Goss

So is "Red Tail Boa" just a name give by the pet shops? I keep thinking about the post saying "I hope they didnt charge you for a Peruvian" Was the $90 I payed to much? It realy dosnt matter to me as I love the snake but just wandering.
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Boa Constrictor Constrictor..
Common Columbian type BCI could more aptly be called Brown Tail Boas.. Sometimes the tails will start out reddish, but as they mature out, it turns brownish. This is not every BCI (and not morphs), some can maintain decent, or orange-ish colored tail saddles into maturity.
Normal BCI can be as low as $35 (a good find during the peak of baby season)or as high as $150 or so for babies, Probalby $75-$250 or so for adults. Beyond that, you are dealing with pattern and color, leading to higher prices.
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Delusions of Grandeur feed the EGO...

What is the problem with calling them redtails. I mean it is basically a generic term anyways. They are all the same species just different sub-species. To each his own I guess but I will continue to call my colombians red tails because thats what they are, they have red tails, heck my hypo colombian has a real red tail. Sorry that is my little rant.

you will be wrong (in my opinion). If we use your belief that they are all "the same species, just different subspecies", then we would also label Argentine boas, Longicaudas, and Amaralis as "REDTAILS". To call them redtails is not using a generic term. If you have many subspecies or even species, and you tell people you keep boas, and not get into your localities, then using "boas" is generic. I don't think I need to get into your argument of your hypo being a redtail because "he has a really red tail." I suppose we could begin calling red-tailed ratsnakes "redtail boas" if the only quailification we need is a red tail. Again, just my opinions. But rather than saying you have redtails, why not just say you have Colombians or Colombian boas. If you went to a reptile show and told people you have redtails (and they had a clue) they would ask if you had Suriname, Guyanan, Peruvian. I have 53 various boas. How many redtails? One Suriname. How many BCI (Colombians)? Thirty six. SO I don't have 37 Redtails. I have one.

Phil Goss

And since Hogs have the same name (BCI) as your "redtails", those should be called redtails as well. Along with all central americans, and let's throw in sabogae as well.

Phil Goss

BCI stands for Boa constrictor imperitor and BCC stands for Boa constrictor constrictor. Same species different sup-species. The thing about the hypo was a joke sorry it flew over your head and your comment about the rats is a little off topic. But I will just end this now so we safe room on this board and dont fill it up with arguments.

Everyone wishes their snake is something great and special, that they got the great deal of a albino for the price of a normal, but in actuality all the snakes have their own beauty and allure, the animal should be takin care of and treated as if it was a million dollar animal. You have a wonderful looking Boa there, so don't sell her short by calling her a plain normal. She looks like she has a good home and that you will take good care of her no matter what she is. Good luck with her, she's a beauty no matter waht she really is.

Sincerely,
Rose
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No doubt. I adore this sanke. My concern was I would like to breed her one day but need to knwo what she is exactly as to not faulsly advert her young, thanks for the replyes
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IMO $90 isn't too much to spend on a columbian BCI, so in that respect it's OK. But what isn't OK is that the pet store sold you a snake that isn't what they claimed it to be. Personally, I'd be speaking to the owner of the store and let him know it's not OK in no uncertain terms. If he didn't seem genuine in his promise (not that the promise means he would actually comply) to change his practices regarding proper labeling I would take it a step further and file a report with the better business bureau.

Either the pet store (associate/manager/owner) or the breeder falsely advertised. He should either speak with his dishonest breeder or get honest himself. If you like your snake, then it's all good on that end- $90 isn't too much. What I'm thinking about is them duping future snake lovers and buyers.

- Damian

I understand what your saying. I have no doubt if anyone is at fault here it would be the breeder noit being honest. As I said I have dealt with these falks for years and they are all close personal friends of mine. I am sure if I brought it up IU would be given a full refund and then some but the money is not important, What is important is that they be labled corectly in the future. I will bring it up to them but not make a big deal about geting ripped off or anything because I did not. I would have paid the lable price of $150 if need be.
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That seems like a good attitude. As long as you're happy with the snake, then a refund isn't needed. Like we both said, the important thing is that the owner/manager is more accurate in his future sales. Hopefully he/they will deal with honest breeders and maybe learn a little more about the snakes they're selling too.

- Damian

I know the store is stufed with computers, Wirless this and wireless that, Maybe they are reading this now I dont know. Or maybe they can do like I did and simply ask here.
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