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Newest cage setup - thermostat, water dish change, new climbing branch

wftright Feb 05, 2006 05:03 AM

Welcome to the latest edition of my ball python cage. I've made a few changes from the last edition. I'll show and explain them here.

The most important addition is a Johnson thermostat that I bought from MGReptiles. I called Matt a few weeks ago, and he persuaded me that the Johnson on/off thermostat would be ideal for my needs. I also talked to a friend who is a good control systems engineer. She made me feel even better about this choice. After my removing the old bedding and cleaning all the cage accessories, the cage needs time to reach steady state temperature again, so I don't know yet how well the thermostat will work. If the thermostat works as advertised, I'll be very happy.

Another addition from MGReptiles is bubble wrap with reflective surfaces on each side. While the picture doesn't show this change, I've added a layer of this material on the underside of my screen in several places. Matt said that the reflective surfaces are like space blanket material and will help reflect heat back into the living area. The bubble wrap is also an insulator which will keep heat in the aquarium. This material will also keep humidity in the aquarium. Again, if this stuff works, I should get better, more consistent control of my temperature and humidity, and I'll be very happy.

Another change with heating consequences is that I put newspaper on the floor of the aquarium before adding the bedding. The primary reason for this change was to keep the bedding from sticking to the bottom of the aquarium and staining. Cleaning should be easier next time. A secondary benefit is that the newspaper may spread heat more evenly and minimize hot spots in the bedding. If the newspaper doesn't work well in this regard, I may use aluminum foil under the bedding. The aluminum foil would certainly spread heat.

In the past, I've kept my warm side water dish on the floor because warming the water would lead to greater evaporation and therefore greater humidity. I've recently heard (from Tosha) that warming the water is risky for several reasons. To reduce the water temperature, I've put tiles under the warm side water dish. This change should reduce the water temperature.

One of my new ideas came while I was walking through Wal-Mart. I found a shower cup that's made to stick on the side of a shower and hold shampoo, razors, soap, or other shower items. I stuck this cup to the side of the aquarium for a week or two, and it held well. I've now added the cup inside the aquarium and filled the cup with Spanish moss. The moss should help control cage humidity, and having one more item overhead may help reduce my python's feeling of overhead exposure.

I've added a second climbing branch to the cage. My ball python occasionally likes to climb. I'm glad to see her exercise, so I try to provide opportunities. My only concern with this branch is that she'll have better access to the upper rear corner of the aquarium. The upper rear corner is where the light bar holds a black light bulb for extra heating. The bulb heats the rim around the aquarium pretty severely, and sometimes she likes to try to crawl along the rim in other places. To prevent her from crawling on the hot rim, I've rolled aluminum foil and taped it on the rim to block her access. The foil also keeps the rim from getting hot. The foil doesn't feel hot, and she doesn't have room to sit on anything hot. To hurt herself, she'd have to push her head upwards against the hot screen. If snakes had a problem with being burned this way, any overhead heat source would be inappropriate, and people would warn strongly against heating with light bulbs. The average python is in an enclosure that is low enough for the snake to push his head against the screen under a heat lamp. I've read somewhere that snakes are pretty good at avoiding overhead burns but tend to let their bellies burn. This tendency is why hot rocks are a problem. I'm going to watch her carefully. If she appears to be pushing against the screen, I'll move the climbing branch or not use this light bulb. I've not used this bulb for a couple of months, but I'd like to use it again.

I've added a big mound of aspen bedding to the cool end of the cage. I've elevated the cool end water dish in the past by adding extra bedding, and I want to continue this practice. I had some aspen that I wanted to finish and was low on Repti-bark. I also like the idea of having something soft underneath her new climbing branch. She's not a great climber, and I hope she'll land on the soft bedding when she falls. She hasn't been using the cool end much recently because the cool end has been a little too cool. If I can burn the black light bulb more, then the temperatures should increase enough to bring this end into a better range.

I've kept the half-coconut hide that she's been using frequently during the past few weeks. I've added a second one on the cool side of the cage. Again, her using the one on the cool side may depend on my increasing the cool side temperature slightly. I've kept the tile hide that used to be her favorite hide. She's used the tile hide much less since I added the half-coconut. The log hide is in its usual place, and I still have the log hide partially filled with a tile and with bedding. The smaller fake plant is near one end of the log hide and gives her another place she can go where the overhead exposure shouldn't be too bad. She likes to use the log and the plant to move across the cage without being in the open.

About three hours after my returning my ball python to her cage, she's still trying to understand the changes. While everything looks nearly the same to me, I'd guess that she senses changes and is wondering about them. If nothing else, everything must smell different than it did a few hours ago. The cage is also a little colder than it's been because the new bedding hasn't had time to warm. I'm hoping that she'll be settled again by the end of the day.

As always, I'm curious what others think of my changes.

Thanks,

Bill

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It's not how many snakes you have. It's how happy and healthy you can keep them.

Replies (5)

ginebig Feb 05, 2006 07:47 AM

A little constructive critisizm , if I may. The tile you placed under the water dish will only redistribute the heat more evenly, it may cool down some but still makes for a larger area of heated floor space. You may need to keep your branches a bit lower to the ground to keep her from prying on the lid of the tank. I'm sure you know that as she grows you'll have to remove some of these things to allow her more floor space. Otherwise she'll just push things around as she cruises at night. Lastly I think your thermometers are to high up in the tank. They read the temps at the top of the tank, not at ground level where she spends most of her time. Heat rises, it will be warmer there than near the floor. Not knockin' your setup, it looks good just a little cluttered

Quig

wftright Feb 05, 2006 11:22 AM

Thanks for the feedback. I'm always trying to learn.

I'm probably going to start measuring the water temperature and look for some way of knowing what water temperature is optimum. I had hoped that raising the water dish on a tile and some bedding would lower the temperature a little. If this setup doesn't get the temperature to where it needs to be, I'll keep changing things until I find the right solution. I was a little confused about what you meant by "larger area of heated floor space." Are you saying that I need more heated floor space without the water taking up some of that floor space?

So far, she hasn't shown herself strong enough to pry on the screen cover, but I'll keep a watch for that issue. I have the screen held by four of the good, thick clips, so effective prying would be difficult right now. When she gains the strength to pry, I'll have to make adjustments. Another factor against her prying is that the higher branch is held to the screen with a chain. If she tries to push, the branch will move.

Yep, I recognize that I'll have to make major changes as she grows. The coconut hides obviously have no value to a big snake. The folks who make Rep-Tiles make bigger tiles, and those will be useful for a while. Eventually, I'll get the planter dishes that many other people use. Another option is that I'll get a bigger enclosure so that I can have the same relative amount of clutter but with everything scaled for a larger snake. Someone told me that while I have a little snake in a big tank, clutter is good for making her feel that she's not exposed.

I just discovered this weekend that they're putting several dozen FEMA trailers about a half mile from my house. If the neighborhood collapses the way that other neighborhoods have collapsed when they move in hurricane refugees, I'll bite the bullet and move. My house has probably lost $40,000 in value this weekend. When I get a new house, I'll certainly make sure that there's a room with enough room for a bigger cage.

Actually, the three digital thermometers that you see at the top of the tank have their probes positioned on the floor. I can see how the positioning of the probes isn't obvious in the picture. The one on the far left is measuring the temperature on top of the bedding in front of the water dish. The one in the middle is measuring the temperature inside the coconut hide. The one on the right is measuring the temperature under the tile hide in the back. The aquarium thermometers in front of the sphagnum moss in the center and buried in the aspen on the right are obviously near the ground. I've also added a small, spirit-filled, weather thermometer at the level of the cool side water dish on the back wall. I still have some strip thermometers on the back wall, but I rarely look at them.

Good catches!

Thanks,

Bill
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It's not how many snakes you have. It's how happy and healthy you can keep them.

ginebig Feb 05, 2006 12:08 PM

Well, looks like you got it all covered then. My reference to the tile was, I was thinking it was on the floor of the tank over a UTH which would cause it to heat up more. I also don't think you want the water to warm if it's also to be drunk by the ball. Good luck with it all.

Quig

bpconnection Feb 05, 2006 02:26 PM

Bill,
it's nicer than where I live! Can I move in? Looks like your snake is one of the lucky ones! So many go to the idiots in the world! I rescued one from a guy who said the snake was allowed to "swim" in the pool every once in a while. I have another male that's covered in black and white scarring from burns. The idiot who sold it said the white blotch was because it was a piebald! Enjoy!
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Jeremy Conrad
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Isn't it cooler that serpent's don't walk anymore?
(Genesis 3:14)

wftright Feb 05, 2006 08:42 PM

Thanks for the comments. I'm very pleased that I decided to get the thermostat, and adding the bubble wrap under the screen should help my temperatures and humidity. I also bought some plexiglass and am making covers so that light from the fluorescent bulb can reach the cage but humidity can't get out. Even with what I've done so far, I'm getting better air temperatures. I'm going to give it another day or two to reach steady state and to let her stress level come back down, and then I'm going to do a hot spot survey with my temperature gun. I'm also going to move my thermometer probes around the bottom to get a better feel for air temperatures at ground level and under things.

The funny thing is that I'm not sure whether my girl likes the new setup right now. She's retreated into her log hide and doesn't appear to be moving. When I first brought her home, that was her only hide, and she seems to retreat there whenever I make a change. Only with time does she start to explore the new settings. I hope she's happy by Tuesday because that's her feeding day.

I think it's great that you do rescues. Part of me would love to pick up a rescue snake, but another part of me is happy with two snakes. With only two, I can spend more time fiddling with every aspect of the cage and try to optimize every detail. Of course, if someone had a nice pastel or mohave that needed rescuing, I'd jump at the chance. I guess we all would. Maybe someday I'll rescue a boyfriend for my girl.

Bill

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It's not how many snakes you have. It's how happy and healthy you can keep them.

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