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We are very excited about this pairing as it will yield albino labyrinth rock/burm hybrids. We can only imagine at this point what they will look like. We know that this hybrid albino line has an orange retaining gene and we're very excited about that. This male hybrid is one of our 50/50 hybrid double het albino and labyrinth holdbacks. He just hit 11 feet and is a fantastic breeder. We're fixin to breed him to two more albino labyrinth females as soon as he is finished with this female.

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David Beauchemin
High End Herps.Inc
http://HighEndHerps.com

I don't mean to poke fun of your names but I just found them extremely amusing; just a sign of our crazy times in the herp business. My preference is still the good old fashioned burm.

>>We are very excited about this pairing as it will yield albino labyrinth rock/burm hybrids. We can only imagine at this point what they will look like. We know that this hybrid albino line has an orange retaining gene and we're very excited about that. This male hybrid is one of our 50/50 hybrid double het albino and labyrinth holdbacks. He just hit 11 feet and is a fantastic breeder. We're fixin to breed him to two more albino labyrinth females as soon as he is finished with this female.
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>>David Beauchemin
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Rob Carmichael, Curator
The Wildlife Discovery Center at Elawa Farm
Lake Forest, IL

Thanks for your input.

Here's another pic of other hybrid morph projects in the works.

Enjoy

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David Beauchemin
High End Herps.Inc
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Ok, usually im all for hybrids, I find them vary interesting. I used get them all the time breeding hamsters and rodents. But creating hybrids with reptiles is totaly diffrent. In the wild a hamster or rat will breed with another, relentless of the color or pattern, etc. but with reptiles in the wild it wouldnt happen.A burm breeds with a burm, a rock python breeds with a rock. breeding them together would eliminate isolated breeding wouldnt it?

In defense of HighEndHerps, hybrids in a captive situation will do nothing to affect wild populations; everything we do in a captive situation is artificial anyway. If someone wants to breed a rock to a burm, hey, its a free world and I don't think it necessarily has a negative affect on captive populations AS LONG AS WE ARE KEEPING GOOD RECORDS (I personally don't like it but that's just me and I am not judging those who do things differently). What I would hate to see happen is for one of these "mutts" get into a captive breeding program (not just talking burms here....heck, we really don't need any more burms being pumped out right now) and some how sneak into someone's project under the guise of something different.

>>Ok, usually im all for hybrids, I find them vary interesting. I used get them all the time breeding hamsters and rodents. But creating hybrids with reptiles is totaly diffrent. In the wild a hamster or rat will breed with another, relentless of the color or pattern, etc. but with reptiles in the wild it wouldnt happen.A burm breeds with a burm, a rock python breeds with a rock. breeding them together would eliminate isolated breeding wouldnt it?
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Rob Carmichael, Curator
The Wildlife Discovery Center at Elawa Farm
Lake Forest, IL

Its not nessaceraly(hope I spelled that right) neggative. Just like burms, people bred them and marketed them and what do we have now? floridas crawling with them. I have nothing against you, its the people the babys will go to. Im not saying if you sell to people they wont be responsible. but what about the people they sell to? An irrisponsible buyer buys one young because they think ist cool, or their interested, but when it gets too big, or there in a situation where they dont have the room and they let it go in the wild, same goes with other people. Then those are going to repopulate, and itll be just like the burms.Hypathetically speaking. Dont get me wrong, It looks like their going to be awsome boids, the best of luck to you.

(I hope it doesnt sound rude or neggative).

"...everything we do in a captive situation is artificial anyway."

If you want a good example of what affect they will have in the wild give Florida a visit in about 4 or 5 years. I am bet there are a few morphs out in all that mess. I would just hate to see animal control trying to answer a call on one of those. "Well... it looked like an abino burmese but no yellow but it had black eyes... and big fangs the size of elephant tusks."
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Bryan, Atlanta GA

1-0-0 Rescued Ball Python - Apep
0-1-0 Rescued Mountain Horned Dragon - Ki
0-0-1 Rescued Aggressive Bearded Dragon - Zeus
0-0-1 Rescued Non-Alpha Green Iguana - Bud
1-1-0 Rescued Rats... no wait... ROTTEN Little Cats - Ra, Bastet
0-0-1 Rescued Dieting Panda Hamster - Mr. Fluffy
0-1-0 Rescued Little Angelic Kitten - Isis
1-0-0 Horse... whoops... BIG Golden Retriever - Jake
0-1-0 Wife
2-0-0 Kids

exactly, In 5-10 years there will be so many diffrent morphs loose int the wild, eg. so many hybrids get loose, that they start breeding with each other, and come up with something we dont even no what it looks like.Besides the fact, its not healthy for the the environment(hope I spelled it right).