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we saw this snake at a local pet shop and thought it was cute but what morph is it

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2.1.0 ball python (aragorn, frodo, arwen)
1.0.0 columbian boa (squiggles)
1.0.0 rat snake (alabastered)
0.1.0 corn snake (baby)
3.2.0 cats (rockie, bs, brownie, lerrado, kole)
1.3.0 kids (dilyen, dakota, chyanne, sierra)
Brian n Chrissy
"snakes are kind of like potato chips, you cant have just one"

Ghost?
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0.1 Snow Corn "Hope"
1.0 Ball Python "Wilson" (Castaway)
1. Orange Albino Black Ratsnake "Chunk" (Goonies)
.1 Orange Albino Black Ratsnake "Peaches"
0.0.1 Mexican Black Kingsnake "Onyx"

cool what do they go for usually?
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2.1.0 ball python (aragorn, frodo, arwen)
1.0.0 columbian boa (squiggles)
1.0.0 rat snake (alabastered)
0.1.0 corn snake (baby)
3.2.0 cats (rockie, bs, brownie, lerrado, kole)
1.3.0 kids (dilyen, dakota, chyanne, sierra)
Brian n Chrissy
"snakes are kind of like potato chips, you cant have just one"

Almost all corns in my area go for $49, at local pet stores no matter the color morph. At the breeders, they are a little different depending on phases. I think ghosts are probably between $30-50. At least that is my area.
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------Misty-------
We have enough youth....How about a fountain of smart?

that is what they are selling him/her for 50ish.
i dont think we will buy him/her because they never know how old or where they came from or at least this big name store doesn't.
well here is a pic of our corn (baby).

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2.1.0 ball python (aragorn, frodo, arwen)
1.0.0 columbian boa (squiggles)
1.0.0 rat snake (alabastered)
0.1.0 corn snake (baby)
3.2.0 cats (rockie, bs, brownie, lerrado, kole)
1.3.0 kids (dilyen, dakota, chyanne, sierra)
Brian n Chrissy
"snakes are kind of like potato chips, you cant have just one"

Around here they go for $79 (amels, anerys, ghosts, snows) and that is at the "acceptable" pet store. The pet store that feeds all of their baby corns crickets and scratches their heads wondering why they all die charges $49. Which is sad because they almost always have amel/anery/normal motleys and stripes for the same price. I once told him that they eat pinkies and he said "well we don't order any small enough for them to eat so we feed them crickets and they do fine!" That is probably why I could count their ribs.... I have considered calling the dept. of agriculture on them (supposedly who controls pet store licenses)
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0.1 Snow Corn "Hope"
1.0 Ball Python "Wilson" (Castaway)
1. Orange Albino Black Ratsnake "Chunk" (Goonies)
.1 Orange Albino Black Ratsnake "Peaches"
0.0.1 Mexican Black Kingsnake "Onyx"

amels, anerys, snows all $25 off the internet i dont remember the other morph you mentioned but i bet its only $35
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jake

my addiction:
2 normal ball pythons (lazlo and izzy)
1 amelenistic corn snake (zyklon)
0.1 blizzard corn (blizz)

>>amels, anerys, snows all $25 off the internet i dont remember the other morph you mentioned but i bet its only $35
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>>jake
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We have a slight problem here.....
You say amels, anerys and snows are all $25.00 off the internet.
Yes, some sites have them for that, but some have them for more.
But, when you throw in shipping a $25.00 snake just became a $60.00 to $70.00 dollar snake and a $35.00 snake becomes a $70.00 to $80.00 dollar snake.
A snake that costs $49.00 at a local store is a reasonably priced snake. Especially one like the snake pictured above.
I am not 100% sure about ghost, though.
The initial thought is ghost but it sure does seem to be retaining a lot more melanin then I would normally associate with ghosts.
After all, a ghost is a hypo anery so you would expect the melanin (black) to be more muted.
Either way I would easily pay $49.00 or $50.00 for that snake even if it is "just" an anery.
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Corn snakes and rat snakes..No one can have just one.
"resistance is futile"
Jimmy (draybar)

Draybars Snakes

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I am still werrie about picking up a snake from a pet store that doesnt know where the snakes come from IE breeder WC ect ect. When we ask where they get thier snakes their reply is I dont know they just come in a box and we put them in the display. I guess santa makes special deliveries year round to the pet store. The pic was just a snap shot through the glass at the store.
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2.1.0 ball python (aragorn, frodo, arwen)
1.0.0 columbian boa (squiggles)
1.0.0 rat snake (alabastered)
0.1.0 corn snake (baby)
3.2.0 cats (rockie, bs, brownie, lerrado, kole)
1.3.0 kids (dilyen, dakota, chyanne, sierra)
Brian n Chrissy
"snakes are kind of like potato chips, you cant have just one"

95% of local shops have no idea what the snakes herritage is. But a "ghost" or anery is not going to be wild caught. As long as it is eating fine and not apparently ill why not pick up the gorgeous snake? Knowing its parents won't make it any less beautifull.....
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0.1 Snow Corn "Hope"
1.0 Ball Python "Wilson" (Castaway)
1. Orange Albino Black Ratsnake "Chunk" (Goonies)
.1 Orange Albino Black Ratsnake "Peaches"
0.0.1 Mexican Black Kingsnake "Onyx"

you have a good point i think you just made my mind up for me lol.
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2.1.0 ball python (aragorn, frodo, arwen)
1.0.0 columbian boa (squiggles)
1.0.0 rat snake (alabastered)
0.1.0 corn snake (baby)
3.2.0 cats (rockie, bs, brownie, lerrado, kole)
1.3.0 kids (dilyen, dakota, chyanne, sierra)
Brian n Chrissy
"snakes are kind of like potato chips, you cant have just one"

>>you have a good point i think you just made my mind up for me lol.
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I'm with Phiber,
If you like it, it appears healthy and in a price range you find reasonable, go for it,
I doubt seriously it is wild caught.
It is just too easy to get cheap captive bred. Wild caught corns wouldn't really be worth the trouble, or be available in large enough numbers to supply a pet store that does any regular business.
just my 2 cents

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Corn snakes and rat snakes..No one can have just one.
"resistance is futile"
Jimmy (draybar)

Draybars Snakes

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Draybar - pretty ghost you have there, whose line is it from? My ghost from Kathy Love is really turning pink. Darn I have to get a good camera.
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1.2 Ghost Corns, Beetlejuice, Casper and Spooky
1.1 Charcoal het pewter, Smokey and Flame
1.1 Hypo het lavender, Rosy and Rocko
1.0 Anery, Goku
0.1 Amel, Sunny
2.0 Tabby Cats, Daddycat and his son Brat
0.1 Australian Shepherd, Angel

Gypsy

I agree. Most pet stores know nothing about the pets they carry. They know they sale and make money. The other side of things are the breeders ho have their own store or if the store knows the breeder that they get their snakes from. I know nothing about the parents of any of my corns. I get mine from a local breeder who owns a local petstore. I doubt he would be able to tell me which parents each snake came from, though. I just trust in the fact that his snakes are healthy, the babies are healthy and are beautiful. Not knowing does not change anything about the snake you are looking at, in my opinion. I admit it'd be really nice to know some of the genetic make-up, but that is a bonus that you just don't get from the majority of pet stores.
Hope that came out right. I am not knocking pet stores, or breeders, especially not the breeder that I get mine from. I am just saying its hard to keep track, and a lot of people don't
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------Misty-------
We have enough youth....How about a fountain of smart?

WOW Everyones pet store must realy suck LOL My local pet store is awsome. Been deeling with them for years and am close personal friends with everyone from the owner to employees. They realy know there stuff and go out of there way to give the best care to the animals they sell. Only problem I ever had with them realy is my Peruvian Boa, I just found out a week or so ago its not a Peruvian but that matters not. I will simply pass it on to them to be more carfull labeling there enclosures next time or quite posably the breeder misinformed them, I guess the moral of the post is not all pet stores are bad. I dont take my business to the larger chains "You know the ones" but as far as the little mom and pop pet store in my town. I will stand behind them any day.
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>>WOW Everyones pet store must realy suck LOL My local pet store is awsome. Been deeling with them for years and am close personal friends with everyone from the owner to employees. They realy know there stuff and go out of there way to give the best care to the animals they sell. Only problem I ever had with them realy is my Peruvian Boa, I just found out a week or so ago its not a Peruvian but that matters not. I will simply pass it on to them to be more carfull labeling there enclosures next time or quite posably the breeder misinformed them, I guess the moral of the post is not all pet stores are bad. I dont take my business to the larger chains "You know the ones" but as far as the little mom and pop pet store in my town. I will stand behind them any day.
>>My Research and Collection "New server"

The only "Mom and Pop" store in my area closed down about a year and a half ago.
Well, there are a couple of fish stores but the only one that dealt in reptiles closed.
I have quite a few snakes from them and enjoyed dealing with, trading with and learning from them.
Unfortunately most of the money in Mom & Pop stores comes from supplies and not really the animals themselves.
Unless they can turn a serious volume of animals.
With PetCo and PetSmart it made it almost impossible for them to compete in supplies.
The worse part is I do not know how to get in touch with them since they closed shop.
Anyway, there really are some great "non chain store" pet shops out there, unfortunately the numbers seem to be decreasing steadily.
one of my babies from them

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Corn snakes and rat snakes..No one can have just one.
"resistance is futile"
Jimmy (draybar)

Draybars Snakes

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that is my original problem that it is a big named store one of the two you mentioned. i just don't like dealing with the them except to get some supplies because they are closer than the mom n pop store that chrissy works at now. so now that she works there now we will probably pick up what we need at work then come. we are going to get the snake latter today even though it is a big named store.lol thanx
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2.1.0 ball python (aragorn, frodo, arwen)
1.0.0 columbian boa (squiggles)
1.0.0 rat snake (alabastered)
0.1.0 corn snake (baby)
3.2.0 cats (rockie, bs, brownie, lerrado, kole)
1.3.0 kids (dilyen, dakota, chyanne, sierra)
Brian n Chrissy
"snakes are kind of like potato chips, you cant have just one"

Hope it is still there for you!
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------Misty-------
We have enough youth....How about a fountain of smart?

we checked last night when we got our f/t for the collection.
or at least i hope lol
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2.1.0 ball python (aragorn, frodo, arwen)
1.0.0 columbian boa (squiggles)
1.0.0 rat snake (alabastered)
0.1.0 corn snake (baby)
3.2.0 cats (rockie, bs, brownie, lerrado, kole)
1.3.0 kids (dilyen, dakota, chyanne, sierra)
Brian n Chrissy
"snakes are kind of like potato chips, you cant have just one"

Thats what I was trying to say. Big chains care nothing for their animals. I once found a snake skeleton curled up, sitting on top of the aspen. How long would it have taken for it to sit there, stinking, to decompose all the way to just bones!! I told them about it and they didn't seem to care. I went in a week later and it was gone, but they had just dumped a few f/t pinkies in for their baby corns. The pinkies were bloated and discolored. You could tell they had been in there for a while. Most of the employees have no knowledge. And I say MOST because I have worked at one of those chains and there are a few who have genuine knowledge. My "Mom and pop" pet store is great. I go to him for advice when ever I need it. The only thing I was saying is that he breeds so many corns, and puts all the babies together in one display, I doubt he could tell me the parents of each snake. Although I have not asked him to try. I will today, going there now anyway.
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------Misty-------
We have enough youth....How about a fountain of smart?

I have no doubt it is extreamly dificult to track down a family of snakes like that. My local pet store dosnt even try to answer questions like that, When asked they take names and numbers and refer people to the breeders. I can understand I mean when the day is over they are there for one thing. To make a living.
My Research and Collection "New server"

I am going to go out on a limb here and say I have my doubts it is a ghost. I am not a pro by any means but it only holds a slight similarity to my ghost. The colors and patterns on Casper are not as vivid as the ones in your picture, Also, Casper has some yellow pigment on her sides. Not saying it is not a ghost but that’s just my opinion, I purchased her very young last year for $70 “She was worth ever penny” If I can dig one up I will post a picture of her
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Heres the picture I promised, I just took both of these about 10 minutes ago. I also added a picture of Prince. When they come of age I will be breeding these 2 Prince is the male, However back to the topic. You will see what I mean about Caspers Colors and why I have my doubts your picture is a Ghost.

Below, Prince

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cool pic's. i printed out your pic and mine put them side by side. it is hard to tell the difference if there is any?
except the pattern on the head that is. im not worried if it is a ghost but if it is cool. who knows maby chrissy will talk me in to getting it. we will see. thanx for the comments.
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2.1.0 ball python (aragorn, frodo, arwen)
1.0.0 columbian boa (squiggles)
1.0.0 rat snake (alabastered)
0.1.0 corn snake (baby)
3.2.0 cats (rockie, bs, brownie, lerrado, kole)
1.3.0 kids (dilyen, dakota, chyanne, sierra)
Brian n Chrissy
"snakes are kind of like potato chips, you cant have just one"

here is a quick shot of my ghost....also named Casper (are we not an original bunch or what?!)

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------Misty-------
We have enough youth....How about a fountain of smart?

wow very close to jasonw's i do see what you mean about the melanin. and the yellow on the sids.
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2.1.0 ball python (aragorn, frodo, arwen)
1.0.0 columbian boa (squiggles)
1.0.0 rat snake (alabastered)
0.1.0 corn snake (baby)
3.2.0 cats (rockie, bs, brownie, lerrado, kole)
1.3.0 kids (dilyen, dakota, chyanne, sierra)
Brian n Chrissy
"snakes are kind of like potato chips, you cant have just one"

The ones that I don't see a difference on are the ones that are labeled "silver Queens". I do not see a difference from ghosts. I know each website/breeder may say something different. As I have also seen some pics of "charcoal" corns that look just like my ghost. I know charcoal are supposed to be lighter versions of anery (type B, right?).
Kat, can you explain the difference, if there is one genetically? If not, is everyone just adding their own names/version of ghosts? If there is a difference, maybe the pictures that i have seen were just poor versions.
Any one have a pic of a silver queen, ghost and charcoal for comparison?
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------Misty-------
We have enough youth....How about a fountain of smart?

HEY YOU STOLE MY SNAKE "Gets up and runs to enclosure Casper? Casper come here girl" Oh ok shes still there. LOL WOW our Caspers looks very close
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ya they might be twins lol. they all still look great
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2.1.0 ball python (aragorn, frodo, arwen)
1.0.0 columbian boa (squiggles)
1.0.0 rat snake (alabastered)
0.1.0 corn snake (baby)
3.2.0 cats (rockie, bs, brownie, lerrado, kole)
1.3.0 kids (dilyen, dakota, chyanne, sierra)
Brian n Chrissy
"snakes are kind of like potato chips, you cant have just one"

Hey, amazing! your snake comes when she is called. Maybe I will steal her. LOL. My casper better still be in her cage!
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------Misty-------
We have enough youth....How about a fountain of smart?

LOL She must have found that fountain of smart
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ROFL. Its not the snakes that need to find it!!!!

(Enough said)
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------Misty-------
We have enough youth....How about a fountain of smart?

Although my Casper is much smaller and her future mate is Beetlejuice My other ghost female is Spooky. We are original if nothing else lol.
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1.2 Ghost Corns, Beetlejuice, Casper and Spooky
1.1 Charcoal het pewter, Smokey and Flame
1.1 Hypo het lavender, Rosy and Rocko
1.0 Anery, Goku
0.1 Amel, Sunny
2.0 Tabby Cats, Daddycat and his son Brat
0.1 Australian Shepherd, Angel

Gypsy