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Mexicana Range maps

jonellopez Feb 12, 2006 09:53 AM

Hi everyone

Does anybody have or know about some mexicana range maps? May it be on pic or part of an article/journal, etc. I just need a general idea of the range of the species to make my own. I'm thinking on incorporating this to my site. Thanks in advance.
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Jonel @ Selective Propagations
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Replies (10)

kingaz Feb 12, 2006 11:14 AM

I'll e-mail you a copy of some range maps that a guy posted on the ks forum last year. It's a shame that there arent any good, recent range maps for mex-mex, thayeri, greeri, ruthveni, webbi, etc..

Greg

jonellopez Feb 12, 2006 12:45 PM

Hi Greg

It would be awesome if you could email me a copy/link/post. I really appreciate the help. Thanks again.
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Jonel @ Selective Propagations
www.spsnakes.com

serpentdan Feb 12, 2006 11:28 AM

DV

kingaz Feb 12, 2006 11:51 AM

Dan,
Is there anyone working on a new paper on the mexicana group? It seems that a whole lot of new information has become available in the last 24 years. Gartska's map is based on a pretty limited number of specimens, and this paper treats thayeri, greeri, and mex-mex as the same animal.

Greg

serpentdan Feb 12, 2006 12:31 PM

Yes, some folks are working on mexicana papers. Other than some newly discovered greeri localities, Garstka's range maps are still pretty accurate. Brian Hubb's Mountain Kings book shows the expanded range for greeri. I referred to these sources when creating the range maps on my site. There haven't been a lot of mexicana specimens collected in the last 24 years, especially outside their known ranges. There's still a lot we don't know....

Here's a photo of a greeri from Aguascalientes, which is the southern most point of their range.

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Dan
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jonellopez Feb 12, 2006 12:46 PM

JLO
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Jonel @ Selective Propagations
www.spsnakes.com

rick millspaugh Feb 14, 2006 04:18 PM

I've tried to find it and keep hitting dead ends. Found where it should be, but it wasn't. Thanks!
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Rick
Never Enough
Reptiles

mheidka Feb 15, 2006 07:45 AM

n/p

Maria

rick millspaugh Feb 16, 2006 01:55 PM

It is unfortunate that more data (specimens) is not available. It would be very interesting to know the DNA make-up of animals from the possible integration zones, or whether there is any integration at all. Sounds like the possibility is strong for contact/overlap between the species/sub-species.

Of course you would need to know the DNA make-up that constitutes species/sub-species (okay, I’ll shut up about it).
I crave more info.
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Rick
Never Enough
Reptiles

jlassiter Feb 12, 2006 09:11 PM

I too recomend Gaskta's paper from 1982, but it is a little outdated and generalized to say the least....Actually I just looked at it a few weeks back.....I think there are a lot of voids to fill as well as some new species......Bob, Dan and others will hopefully fill some of them in.......
John Lassiter

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