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Is anybody working with Jalpas Mex Mex, from the Barker line? n/p
Patton
Feb 12, 2006 10:16 PM
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Patton
Feb 12, 2006 10:19 PM
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serpentdan
Feb 13, 2006 08:36 PM
I don't believe mex-mex have been found around Jalpan, Queretaro. Just L. ruthveni and L.t. dixoni.
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Dan
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crimsonking
Feb 14, 2006 09:00 PM
hmmm. I have heard of some and a friend has bought some from Craig Trumbower I believe. Anyway, my bud sells them as having Jalpan influence.
:Mark
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Patton
Feb 15, 2006 10:17 PM
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Patton
Feb 15, 2006 10:21 PM
Go to kingsnakes caresheet link and then hit mountain kings and then distribution, then hit Mexico and scroll down to a photo of Jalpan Mex Mex taken by the Barkers. I know you think I'm crazy!
Thanks,
Phil
bobhansen
Feb 15, 2006 10:59 PM
Phil:
We don't think you're crazy! The history of "mexicana" from the Jalpan region is rather convoluted and I won't go into the messy details here. However, what you should know is that--as Dan said--mex mex are not known to occur in the Jalpan region. The snake in the picture you referenced is apparently a ruthveni, even though it looks a bit different from the ruthveni we're used to seeing (and which are from a different mountain area). This is supported by DNA evidence. What is floating around among hobbyists as "Jalpan" animals are, in all liklihood, hybrids created by captive breedings between ruthveni and mex mex. If you need more info, email me at rwh13@csufresno.edu.
Cheers,
Bob
