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I would like to disprove that theory.

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wait im confused... wut happened to the boa?? how did a dead rat harm it??
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I don't attribute it to f/t. I personally think he was "special".
John
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Can you explain what is going on in that pic. I know you feed live and will most likely not change your mind. But their is no way you can convince me feeding a live rat is safer than a dead one. Their can always be complications with feeding. But if you take the percentage of snakes that have been hurt from a live rat and compare it to frozen/thawed, I'm sure their would be a very clear answer. My boa collection is very important to me and I take every precaution to ensure their safety. I have been bitten by a jumbo rat before and I would just die if one of my snakes had to go through the experience.
Michael Burton

why do I feel like Im telling a joke to a blonde? i retract my previous post. only one of you saw what was in the pic.
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Call me what you want. Can you just explain how that disproves the theory. That's all I'm asking for. I don't even see a mouse or rat in the picture so how does it disprove the theory.
Michael Burton

The snake seems to be biting itself, but I am not understanding what that and feeding F/T have to do with one another...Oh well, Great looking boa though..
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I'm not sure really whats going on in that pictures either, and I stared at it until I nearly went blind. Everyone relax, its gonna be o.k, lets not get hostile, however, I would like an explaination as well as to why f/t is a bad thing. A picture may be worth a thousand words, but its not speaking for itself here. I'm sure a snake has bit itself before while feeding, if that is the idea that you are proposing. My opinion, as well as many, is a dead rat bites less than a live one.

Toothless mice and rats for sale!!!!lol

Poor little toothless rodents. I know mice do not have good dental coverage. Just think of the financial impact your actions are causing. LOL!
Sorry. Just the thought of toothless mice/rats was too much of a visual image..........I couldn't pass it up.
John
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"To be the best..........You must lose your mind."

first i would have to say that it so more fact than theory. second how does this disprove the theory at all?
is not a dead rat (killed by the snake) the same as a frozen thawed rat? i dont see how the same thing could not have happend had the snake killed and ate a live rat.
i would say this is more of an example of the lack of higher inteligence of the snake brain (distinguishing self from food in a feeding situation).

if you dont care about behavior opinions you can stop reading here.

animal behavior is one of my interests and i often watch the 'natural' behavior of my snakes as much as i can. i have very often watched my snakes (who eat frozen thawed) crawl over the prey item and then in search for a good starting point to consume repeatidly look at a part of their body which had touched the prey item appearing to confuse it with the prey item. this is ususally with younger animals and i have never had an animal accualy bite itself. although i feel there are some aspects of the inteligence of boas that is underestimated, i also feel that they are deffinately not on the top of the reptile rankings for smarts. just thought i would share some observations for anyone who cares.

nobody has a sense of humor anymore. the post was originally a joke. a light hearted "funny haha look at what my idiot snake did" post. why does this always happen. are we all supposed to leave our sense of humor at the door or something upon entering the forums? im fully aware of the fact that in all seriousness feeding a snake a f/t rat is safer but i thought for sure everyone wouldve been able to obviously see the happenings in the pic and get a good chuckle out of it. and in case anyone else is still staring at the pic, the snake missed the rat and bit himself. so i posted that feeding f/t could also be harmful to the snake (in an indirect way). i feed live to the ones that will only accept live and f/t to the ones that will accept f/t. it was a joke. laugh. haha.
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I read it as a joke, amazing how defensive folks get when you talk about feeding live....sheesh

Nice pic and joke btw!

Still chuckling,
Mark

If that original post was a joke I wouldn't rush into stand up. I guess we were all just a bunch of dumb blondes and it was way over are heads. I know I remember a couple debates where you have stated that you feed live rats and their is nothing wrong with it. True? The only other thing I remember is when you got bit by your snake and you were upset people didn't feel sorry for you. I just figured you were using that picture to prove your old argument that feeding live rats is ok. Its good to hear that you now feed your snakes F/T.
Michael Burton

if it was in fact intended as a joke, i a ppologize. there are many people that come here with false information and say things like that with the feelings that they are true. again i appolgize for not getting the joke, thats just not my kind of humor.

>>nobody has a sense of humor anymore. the post was originally a joke. a light hearted "funny haha look at what my idiot snake did" post. why does this always happen. are we all supposed to leave our sense of humor at the door or something upon entering the forums? im fully aware of the fact that in all seriousness feeding a snake a f/t rat is safer but i thought for sure everyone wouldve been able to obviously see the happenings in the pic and get a good chuckle out of it. and in case anyone else is still staring at the pic, the snake missed the rat and bit himself. so i posted that feeding f/t could also be harmful to the snake (in an indirect way). i feed live to the ones that will only accept live and f/t to the ones that will accept f/t. it was a joke. laugh. haha.
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I was feeding my Anery a F/T weaned rat one time while his eyes were starting to haze. He struck at the rat wrapped it up like he normally does, but when it came time for him to eat it he ended up trying to eat the flannel bed sheet next to the rat. He was trying really hard to get is mouth around it before he actually found the rat. It was quite funny to watch but I had to feel sorry for him.
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