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Here's the 007 project male. Tom Stevens

007 dbl het. or not thats a fine looking king,but i must say ya got me interested whats the 007? dbl hets are cool to hatch out i gotta say iffin ya get whitesides put me on list amigo,speakin of which hows the w/s speck project comin? babies this year???,,,,,,,thomas

Tom could tell you but then I would have to kill him and then kill you.

I CAN tell you this is a new double het recessive and it will be called

*................drumroll..................................*

Phantom brooksi

The name will fit the description if that is any hint to you.

Peanut Butter and Axanthic. Mmmm... Peanut Butter...

Tom Stevens, send me an email.
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Bob Bull
1.3 L.g.getula MD Locality
3.3 L.g.g GA locality
2.3 L.g.g albino
1.4 L.g.g het albino
1.2 L.g.g P-het albino
1.0 L.g.floridana peanutbutter
0.2 L.g.f. het peanutbutter
1.0 L.g.f. N.E. axanthic
1.0 L.g.nigrita
1.1 L.t.hondurensis het hypo-melanistic
0.1 L.t.hondurensis hypo-melanistic

Not until the mystery machine and scooby doo pull into my driveway will I tell what the 007s are. It is a miracle it has been kept secret this long and if it does pan out it will be another reason to want to get into Brooksi, the anticipation of an unveiling will be a lot more fun if it is left til the last minute to be unveiled. Don't ya think? Tom Stevens

this should really be posted on the top starting a new thread but here it is now.

The PB's are a codominate trait. The het you have Tom is really a PB. The lighter ones are supers.
The dark (black) ones are hets.

This is what will happen if you breed the animals using these pairings, What I have been calling het PBs are actually the mutation in it's heterozygous form...but it is still visible heretofore they will be known as Peanut Butters, what I was calling Peanut Butters are actually the super form, homozygous...now allowing for that here's the deal:

Super Peanut Butter to Normal= 50% Peanut Butters / 50% Normal
Peanut Butter X Peanut Butter= 25% Supers / 50% Peanut Butters / 25% Normal
Peanut Butter X normal= 50% Peanut Butters / 50% Normals
Super Peanut Butter X Peanut Butter= 50% Peanut Butters / 50% Super Peanut Butters
Super Peanut Butter X Super Peanut Butter= 100% Super Peanut Butters

So PBs are a type of dominant or co dominant like in Boides?
Tom Stevens

Sorry I screwed something up, this is the ways it works out...(only the first line was messed up)

Super Peanut Butter to Normal= 100% Peanut Butters
Peanut Butter X Peanut Butter= 25% Supers / 50% Peanut Butters / 25% Normal
Peanut Butter X normal= 50% Peanut Butters / 50% Normals
Super Peanut Butter X Peanut Butter= 50% Peanut Butters / 50% Super Peanut Butters
Super Peanut Butter X Super Peanut Butter= 100% Super Peanut Butters

Posted by: Nokturnel Tom at Thu Feb 16 11:20:48 2006 [ Report Abuse ] [ Email Message ]

So PBs are a type of dominant or co dominant like in Boides?
Tom Stevens

think tiger retic, or salmon boas same principal

The black ones are normals....not het for anything...

Horridus@aol.com

Technically what you've been selling as peanut butter hets ARE the hets. It's just that with codominant traits, the hets are also phenotypes, so the peanut butter trait is visible to some extent.

You would be wrong in selling the normals as hets because they're just normals and not hets at all.
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chickabowwow

The only type of trait that produces normal-looking hets are recessive traits. This is what makes them recessive. But since the peanut butters are codom instead of recessive, the hets wouldn't be normal-looking at all.

I'm sure you've seen the punnett squares that explain "Aa, aa, Bb, bb" etc. Only the Aa and Bb are heterozygous, meaning you've got different alleles, hence the hetero (different) versus homo (same). This is why the dominating wild type A or B (aka normal) is what the babies ultimately look like although they still carry the a or b trait that isn't expressed.

What irks me is when people here use terms such as "het for nothing." If they were het for nothing, they're not even hets to begin with because they'd be AA or BB, which are homozygous. So a normal that's "het for nothing" is actually a homozygous dominant.

I really hope you don't mistakenly sell any normals produced by your peanut butters as hets, because those normals will NOT produce any peanut butters.
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