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albino x

pipatic Feb 16, 2006 04:27 AM

hi all
couple of questions,
1)if i had an albino and mated to an anery will the outcome be all normals, het for anery/albino?

2) if i had a normal het for coral albino mated it to anery?
last one promise
3)
het albino mated to salmon/hypo would they be normal babies
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carrotaildreams

Replies (9)

jayf Feb 16, 2006 09:48 AM

anery x albino = all het albino het anery

normal het albino x anery = 1/2 het anery het albino
1/2 het anery
you would not be able to distinguish the two so they would all be considered 100% het anery 50% het albino

het albino x (het) hypo = 1/4 (het) hypo het albino
1/4 (het) hypo
1/4 het albino
1/4 normal
the hypos would all be called hypo 50% het albino since you could not distinguish which are really het albino. and the rest would be called 50% het albino since you can not tell which are really het albino. i used (het) for hypo because they will show the hypo gene but only cary one gene (not supers or homozygous).

>>hi all
>>couple of questions,
>>1)if i had an albino and mated to an anery will the outcome be all normals, het for anery/albino?
>>
>>2) if i had a normal het for coral albino mated it to anery?
>>last one promise
>>3)
>>het albino mated to salmon/hypo would they be normal babies
>>-----
>>carrotaildreams

pipatic Feb 16, 2006 10:15 AM

thank you for that,i understood the first one,

normal het albino, mated to salmon/hypo would they be normal babies
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carrotaildreams

rainbowsrus Feb 16, 2006 11:10 AM

normal het albino, mated to salmon/hypo would they be normal babies

Half would be hypos 50% het for albino (and only het for hypo, not supers)

Half would be normals 50% het for albino
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Thanks,

Dave "Rainbows-R-Us"

0.1 Wife (WC)
0.2 kids (CBB)
4.12 Brazilian Rainbow Boa
2.1 Hypomelanistic BRB
0.1 Het for Hypomelanistic BRB
0.1 BCI "Elvira" normal from 1989
1.0 BCI albino / het-anery
0.1 BCI Hypo / het-albino
0.1 BCI Anery / het-albino
0.1 BCI Hypo (possible super)
1.0 BCI albino het stripe
1.0 BCI salmon hypo
0.1 BCI ghost

lots.lots.lots feeder mice and rats

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pipatic Feb 16, 2006 11:20 AM

so the hypo are dh

with the normals het albnio

think it might be better to get albino and a hypo to start with ?

cheers
dave

jayf Feb 16, 2006 03:19 PM

the hypos would be possible double hets and the normals would be possible het albinos. that means you have a 50% chance of all the snakes eitehr carrying the albino gene or not carrying it.

what snakes to start with depends on what you are trying to end up with and how much money you have.

im going to assume you are trying to make sunglows (hypo albinos) since you are talking about the hypo and albino gene.
in this case if you just want to make a sunglow the cheapest way, your best bet would be to get a hypo het albino and a het albio. if you clarrify what you are trying to produce we can help with what you should start with.

>>so the hypo are dh
>>
>>with the normals het albnio
>>
>>think it might be better to get albino and a hypo to start with ?
>>
>>cheers
>>dave

pipatic Feb 16, 2006 05:46 PM

thats the prob,
well local shop has in
a anery (male)
and a het albino (male)
so was thinking of the diff morphs or het i could put to them,

like many i would like to produce a snow or sunglow
think i am looking at 6 year project ??

rainbowsrus Feb 16, 2006 06:21 PM

Sounds like 6 year minimum. That would be two generations at 3 year grow up, could take 4 years for grow up, 3 is a little young (IMO) still doable though.

Both Snows and Sunglows are the combination of two distinct genetic anomolies.

Snows require getting four specific genes into one animal, one albino and one anery gene from each parent. Minimal to have even a chance of producing a snow would be double het parents. With double het breedings the probability of snow is quite low, out of a litter of 16 you statistically would produce:
1 snow
3 albinos 66%het anery
3 anerys 66%het albino
9 normals 66% het albino, 66% het anery

Sunglows are a bit easier as the hypo trait is dominant and only requires one gene so the total aberant gene count need only be 3, 1-hypo (from either parent) and two albino genes, one from each parent. Again minimal requirement to produce sunglows would be a hypo het albino crossed with a het albino.
Out of a litter of 16 again:
2 - sunglow
6 hypo 66%het albino
2 albino
6 normal 66%het albino
-----
Thanks,

Dave "Rainbows-R-Us"

0.1 Wife (WC)
0.2 kids (CBB)
4.12 Brazilian Rainbow Boa
2.1 Hypomelanistic BRB
0.1 Het for Hypomelanistic BRB
0.1 BCI "Elvira" normal from 1989
1.0 BCI albino / het-anery
0.1 BCI Hypo / het-albino
0.1 BCI Anery / het-albino
0.1 BCI Hypo (possible super)
1.0 BCI albino het stripe
1.0 BCI salmon hypo
0.1 BCI ghost

lots.lots.lots feeder mice and rats

_____

sig file edited, contact an admin. 2/13/06

jayf Feb 16, 2006 06:37 PM

rainbows-r-us pretty much covered it. if you want to get one of those snakes from that store because of a good price or something, i would suggest the het albino and look for a hypo het albino (like rainbows-r-us suggested) at a show or online. if you do this, make sure the hypo het albino has the same albino strain as the het albino in the store (either khal or sharp). also you probably want to make srue the het albino is 100% het unless you want to take a chance of raising it up only to be a normal.

>>Sounds like 6 year minimum. That would be two generations at 3 year grow up, could take 4 years for grow up, 3 is a little young (IMO) still doable though.
>>
>>Both Snows and Sunglows are the combination of two distinct genetic anomolies.
>>
>>Snows require getting four specific genes into one animal, one albino and one anery gene from each parent. Minimal to have even a chance of producing a snow would be double het parents. With double het breedings the probability of snow is quite low, out of a litter of 16 you statistically would produce:
>>1 snow
>>3 albinos 66%het anery
>>3 anerys 66%het albino
>>9 normals 66% het albino, 66% het anery
>>
>>Sunglows are a bit easier as the hypo trait is dominant and only requires one gene so the total aberant gene count need only be 3, 1-hypo (from either parent) and two albino genes, one from each parent. Again minimal requirement to produce sunglows would be a hypo het albino crossed with a het albino.
>>Out of a litter of 16 again:
>>2 - sunglow
>>6 hypo 66%het albino
>>2 albino
>>6 normal 66%het albino
>>-----
>>Thanks,
>>
>>Dave "Rainbows-R-Us"
>>
>>0.1 Wife (WC)
>>0.2 kids (CBB)
>>4.12 Brazilian Rainbow Boa
>>2.1 Hypomelanistic BRB
>>0.1 Het for Hypomelanistic BRB
>>0.1 BCI "Elvira" normal from 1989
>>1.0 BCI albino / het-anery
>>0.1 BCI Hypo / het-albino
>>0.1 BCI Anery / het-albino
>>0.1 BCI Hypo (possible super)
>>1.0 BCI albino het stripe
>>1.0 BCI salmon hypo
>>0.1 BCI ghost
>>
>>lots.lots.lots feeder mice and rats
>>
>>_____
>>
>>sig file edited, contact an admin. 2/13/06

pipatic Feb 16, 2006 11:16 PM

jayf and dave
thank you both very much for all your help!

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