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I was told this is a knoblochi. What do you guys think. To me she doesn't look like your typical knoblochi. Could this be a cross with something else?

it's a excellent lookin some type of L.pyro,?.

I agree actually I am not to sure whats pure or not I just go by looks and thats real pretty snake.

I guess the only way to know if a snake is pure is to go catch a wild one and even then who knows? I heard of people catching cali on the east coast, that must be evidence the earth is getting smaller.

I don't know if it's a pure Knob. but it's a really nice looking animal! maybe a cross. Who did you get it from??

I bought her at Great Valley Serpentarium.

Looks to maybe be a cross of some sort. Maybe even a hybrid?
I've seen similar animals that were (unfotunately no help for you)pyro X knoblochi, knoblochi x ruthveni, and L.t. syspila X L.p.knoblochi. I have heard of but haven't personally seen grayband X knobs that have been described to me as "a knob with blotches". Less of the beaded look on the sides I guess.
I guess you'd pretty much have to know the breeder and ask for an accurate description.
Beautiful snake no matter.
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Gorgeous snake. Most knobs have a higher band count, thinner white, thinner black and it's hard to describe but just different looking side pattern. To me it looks like a Arizona Mtn. King X Tarahumara Mtn. King (Lampropeltis pyromelana pyromelana X Lampropeltis pyromelana knoblochi).

Well if you got it from Great Valley Serp., then it most likely was a cross between 2 sub-species,but a lot dont believe pyro. pyro. and Knoblochi to be 2 different sub species, I'm kind of on the fence with it,as thinking its maybe more of a locale thing,but only due to the fact that I have not seen very many pics even of wild knobs from Mexico. But I was told from a couple other breeders that GVS inner breeds ssp. regulary and sells many hybrids at shows. I saw some super neat looking pyro.pyro. X mex-mex at their table one year in Pomona. A very beautiful snake none the less. I bet there are a couple out in Mexico that look like that one though.Nice post,
Jeff Teel