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I saw an add for a baby mix between a Sinaloan Milk and an Okeetee corn for about $90. It looks very badass but Im wondering if its worth $90 if it might have some kinda problems being a hybrid and die or something.
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1.0.0 Mexican Black Kingsnake
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1.0.0 Halloween Honduran Milksnake
0.0.1 Sunglow Motley Cornsnake
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0.1.0 Apricot Pueblan Milksnake
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Post this in the hybrid forum, many people dont agree with hybrids.

Some do, some dont. Just my advice
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Cameron

Just because it is a hybrid does not mean it is going to die. Although, I do agree that you will get a better (nicer) response from the hybrid forum
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**********Misty**********
I try to take one day at a time but sometimes several days attack me at once!

That is correct it will not die just because it is a hybrid. But I always wondered what conditions are necessary to make a hybrid sterile.... Such as a "Zonky" aka zebra donkey cross is sterile and cannot reproduce. Any answers on that?
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0.1 Snow Corn "Hope"
1.0 Ball Python "Wilson" (Castaway)
1. Orange Albino Black Ratsnake "Chunk" (Goonies)
.1 Orange Albino Black Ratsnake "Peaches"
0.0.1 Mexican Black Kingsnake "Onyx"

I dont think people really know. Mules have been known to breed. I think 26 times recorded. I think the hybrid must vary. If 99.9999% of mules can not breed, but on occasion a few can, there logically has to be a difference. Also with macaws, first hybrids of BG and scarlets were thought to be mules. Now they have multi level hybrids. I personally do not have a issue with a hybrid. BUT, they can not be released, and people must not lie about what they have. Since that will not happen in the real world. Hybrid are not good. I presonally have a corn? that looks anery, but I've been told it has emory or great plains rat. Some people would just see a snake to breed. To me this is a snake that has to be a pet only. Or that would be the best situation to me. "TRUE" morphs of each sp seems to be much better for the hobby. IMHO
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AOL IM Mettzilla
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1.3 Bearded Dragons
6 baby female Western hognose, 3.5 adults some friend some mine,,,building breeding stock)
1 Corn snake (bloodred) 0.1 MIA
1 baby creamcycle 0.1
Degus
2.0 Dogs,
0.2 Cats,,
0.1 Wives, (Long term captive!,, I mean ME!)
1.1 Kids (Paininthearsius takamemonii) J/K great kids
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tom

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isnt a cross between a horse and donkey "mule" sterile??

The chance of getting a foal from a mule is about one in a million, rather than zero. A foal is more likely from a mule x horse or donkey than from a mule x mule.

Horses and donkeys have different numbers of chromosomes. Mule sperm and eggs usually don't have all the necessary chromosomes for a foal to live even if fertilization takes place.

Paul Hollander

Interesting, I'm not sure if the mules mating were with mules or a horse etc. Minor point was not all mules are sterile. Odds are prolly 1 in a million, but it happens/d. I wonder what they call a mule of a mule?

http://www.phudpucker.com/mules/mule.htm

just one site, says they have not bred? I'll have to file a complaint with the discovery channel. I know that is where I saw it.

And another site says

http://www.thetech.org/genetics/ask.php?id=143

What would be optimal is to find two species that can breed to create some sort of offspring—sort of like the donkey and the horse. But for there to be some way to get a mule that wasn’t sterile.

How might this happen? Well, one way is by pure chance. One lucky mule might get some sort of mutation or its chromosomes might get rearranged somehow to make it fertile. Of course with mules, you’d need two of them, a male and a female.

The odds are pretty low that something like this would happen so you’d need millions of mules to have even a fighting chance. And of course we don’t have the time or resources to generate millions and millions of mules and have them all breed with each other to create a new species.

OK, I have no idea.
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Computers don't make errors. What they do, they do on purpose. (Dale Gribble)

AOL IM Mettzilla
I forgot my password for herpzilla, and gave a bad email,, major OOPS

1.3 Bearded Dragons
6 baby female Western hognose, 3.5 adults some friend some mine,,,building breeding stock)
1 Corn snake (bloodred) 0.1 MIA
1 baby creamcycle 0.1
Degus
2.0 Dogs,
0.2 Cats,,
0.1 Wives, (Long term captive!,, I mean ME!)
1.1 Kids (Paininthearsius takamemonii) J/K great kids
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tom

www.herpzilla.com

We have enough unwanted hybrids anyway.
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0.1 Snow Corn "Hope"
1.0 Ball Python "Wilson" (Castaway)
1. Orange Albino Black Ratsnake "Chunk" (Goonies)
.1 Orange Albino Black Ratsnake "Peaches"
0.0.1 Mexican Black Kingsnake "Onyx"

LOL. Long post to say you don't know!
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**********Misty**********
I try to take one day at a time but sometimes several days attack me at once!

Yes!
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Computers don't make errors. What they do, they do on purpose. (Dale Gribble)

AOL IM Mettzilla
I forgot my password for herpzilla, and gave a bad email,, major OOPS

1.3 Bearded Dragons
6 baby female Western hognose, 3.5 adults some friend some mine,,,building breeding stock)
1 Corn snake (bloodred) 0.1 MIA
1 baby creamcycle 0.1
Degus
2.0 Dogs,
0.2 Cats,,
0.1 Wives, (Long term captive!,, I mean ME!)
1.1 Kids (Paininthearsius takamemonii) J/K great kids
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tom

www.herpzilla.com

Is it worth $90 to you. This snake (Sinaloan Milk x Corn) cost me $35 as a hatchling.

... mess up a beautiful milksnake by breeding it to a cornsnake? Isn't a cornsnake a cross between a rat and milk anyway?

A corn snake is its own species, it isnt a cross between a rat and milk. Theres only a few like creamsicles which are corns and emori's.

I have never heard anyone say that, thats new to me lol.
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Cameron

Just venting. But there are simularities like color, pattern, range, like that of a milk. There both Elaphe snakes and it is structured like a milk/rat combo. They are cool though and a great beginner snake!

Milksnakes are Lampropeltis.

Corn Snakes used to be Elaphe guttata guttata, but there has been a change in their classification over the last couple of years. They are now Pantherophis guttatus.