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Dry Cages

Dann Jul 27, 2003 08:19 AM

Steam cleaning, I used a hand held steam cleaner (not a pitch for this brand) called the hot shot. Eureka makes it.

I have all plastic enclosures with either glass fronts or Plexiglas. This cut down my cleaning time in half. Also steams those corners Drymarchon loves to spray.

It sprays steam at 220 degrees! and kills all those little nastiest we cant see. I used it on water bowls also. No scrubbing!!!

I like it. It works very well. Once your done just wipe, lay new paper, put the bowls and hinds back in, and add Drymachon…Just an Idea..Dann

Replies (20)

ender Jul 28, 2003 11:41 PM

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TexIndigo Gal Jul 29, 2003 09:15 PM

I haven't used it on the cages yet, but it just occurred to me. Right now we're using ours on the brown widow spiders that are multiplying by the minute in the screen room.

If we EVER get done with our remodel, I'd like to keep a shop-vac in the snake room. Additionally, I plan to put the old dishwasher in the garage to use on snake dishes and hides. Your SO may find it objectionable, but if your hot water heater is set properly, you should be able to run non-porous items through the dishwasher, and they will be pretty well sanitized, if not sterile, when the cycle ends.

If your SO objects to cleaning snake dishes in the dishwasher, you probably shouldn't let him/her see you thaw feeder rodents on top of the rice cooker either. Just kidding.

I haven't given up on my dream of modular caging that is easily disassembled for hosing down, or better yet, running through a dishwasher. Of course, caging for adults will be too large for that. I use the 10 or 15-quart opaque Sterlites for hides, and they can certainly go through the dishwasher. There IS a sink on the dock where I could hand-wash these things, of course, but who wants to be doing that? I keep telling Jeff that we need a wife to take care of these tiresome tasks, but he doesn’t listen to me.

I try to keep at least two water dishes per snake so they can be changed without any gaps and sanitized between uses. I have one snake (my Tex) that manages to slosh water all over the cage no matter what I do. I changed his water to a large crockery dish that is at least 4" deep, and he still soaks his cage as soon as it is newly changed. Now I'm looking for a rectangular dish for him. I'm going to attach it to two walls of the cage with Velcro tape. Time will tell in the battle of girl vs. snake, "whose ingenuity reigns supreme?"

oldherper Jul 30, 2003 12:01 PM

My cages for my adult Dry's are built 4 to a unit, 4 feet long by 16" deep by 12" high. They are divided in half so that one half serves as a hiding area (it has a solid door) and the other half has the water dish, heat, etc. and has 1/4" plexiglass window. I use Rubbermaid under-bed storage boxes as "liners" in both sides. Access from one side to the other is via a 2 1/4" hole cut in both liners that line up with a corresponding 2 1/4" hole in the divider. I use cypress mulch for substrate in the "hide" side and newspaper in the other side. When the cage needs cleaning, I just remove the animal, remove the liner, clean it (very easy to clean) and then put everything back in place. I'll post pics later (when my wife gets home with the digital camera).

Dann Jul 30, 2003 08:14 PM

OH,
I would like to see the set up (tray compartment). Sounds efficient. I may have to look at my set ups dimensions.

The rodent rice cooker! To funny.

oldherper Jul 30, 2003 09:14 PM

This is the cage unit...
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oldherper Jul 30, 2003 09:17 PM

This is with one of the "hide" compartments open (and a female Texan lounging around in the Cypress mulch...
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oldherper Jul 30, 2003 09:19 PM

Both compartments open...
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oldherper Jul 30, 2003 09:21 PM

showing the hole to get from one side to the other (and a big male Texan lounging in the Cypress mulch...)
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Dann Jul 31, 2003 05:54 PM

OH,

I got called away.

Good job on the camera. Nice set ups.

If you get tired of cleaning those cages you let me know. Ill take that pretty Tex female and big boar off your hands. The boar looks huge (monster). How big is he 7’or 8’?

Hope you have good luck with them. Put me on the list. Dann

oldherper Jul 31, 2003 07:27 PM

Yeah, he's just a shade over 8 feet. I also have a juvenile female that I got from Deano this year, that gives me some different bloodline. I think she's going to turn out to be the prettiest one of them all...she's perfect and growing like a weed, but it'll be another 3 years or so before she's big enough to breed. I'll post some pics of her later. The male has a little cream/orange under his neck, the adult female has just cream. The female juvie I got from Dean has a lot of orange under her neck..she's going to be a screamer. Dean has some killer snakes. The adults were not bred this year. Hopefully I'll get a good clutch out of them this year coming up. You are on the list...

You are right...cleaning cages is a MAJOR part of keeping Dry's...that doesn't really bother me though. I just find ways to make it easier, like the plastic trays for liners. Lot's of snakes are messy, but the only other ones I've kept that approached being as messy as Dry's are cobras. Kingsnakes and stuff like that are easy, they just poop in their waterbowls (as soon as you walk out of the room after cleaning their cage). Dry's poop in the middle of the cage (about the size of a cow flop) and then paint the inside of cage with it.

dryguy Aug 01, 2003 03:06 PM

Those 2 Txn's have an awful bunch of white on the throats..How far does that extend??
I ask because rubidus is always very white to 1/2 or more of the ventrum...Other than that they look very much like Texans...In fact It's really the only way to visually distinguish them from each other...My Texans all are very pink/salmon throat with just a touch of cream on the chin/labials...With the exception of 1 female whose white goes about 12" or so down her throat...

Just curious...They are both beauts!!! CG
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Carl W Gossett
Garage Door Herps
Monument,Colorado...northern territory of the Great Republic of Texas

oldherper Aug 01, 2003 06:34 PM

It goes about a foot or 18 inches or so back...and there is a lot more of the yellow/salmon/peach/whatever color diffused into it than the picture shows. It is actually diffused into the cream color up the sides on the ventral scales under the throat. The baby that I got from Dean does have more of that Salmon color, but these have it too, just to a lesser degree. Both are jet-black at the front end and have some brown tint to their tails.

Doug T Aug 03, 2003 02:23 AM

It looked like a Ruby to me too.

Nice animals and cages Old Dude.

Doug T

oldherper Aug 03, 2003 10:42 AM

These were purchased as Texans. I have ZERO experience with rubidus. One thing I did notice was the lack of anterior dorsal pattern you can normally see in adult Texans. These are uniformly solid black, with a little brown sort of tint especially posterior dorsally and laterally, but no spotting or pattern is there. The female especially has white on her 1st through 6th supralabials, her infralabials are almost all white. The white then sort of diffuses into a light salmon/white on her ventral scales for about the first 1/4 of her venter with black banding starting under the throat, the remainder is uniform black. She has 17 rows of dorsal scale anterior and 15 rows posterior, 8 supralabials. The infralabials are edged in black, forming lines that reach the chin shields, but are not nearly as pronounced as the male.

The male has a much smaller amount of white (cream, actually) on the 2 through 5th supralabials, and the infralabials all have some white, each with a black posterior edge forming black lines that reach the chin scales. He also has the same light salmon/cream diffusion for about the 1st 1/4 of his venter, then uniformly black. He has 17 rows of dorsal scales anterior and 15 rows posterior, 8 Supralabials.

If they are rubidus, that's fine, because I was going to try to add rubidus to my collection anyway. That just means that I have to keep looking for a male Texan, at least...preferably another female also.

I never really questioned it...as I said, I have no experience with rubidus, don't think I've ever even see one (until now). I did think they were awfully dark, but never really thought that much about it because I have seem some variation in Texans. I expected rubidus would have some red...hence the name. The only Dry's I have experience with to this point are couperi and melanurus, and limited experience with erebennus.

So, what do you think? Rubidus? Erebennus? Do I need to post more pics?

shadindigo Aug 02, 2003 05:30 PM

OH,

Excuse my ignorance but are you sure those white chinned are Erebennus?

Just asking....

J.

shadindigo Aug 02, 2003 05:34 PM

Sorry...didn't read far enough before I posted.

shadindigo Aug 02, 2003 05:26 PM

Nice setup, may we poach your idea?

Thanks,
J.

oldherper Aug 02, 2003 07:21 PM

Certainly...feel free.

shadindigo Aug 04, 2003 03:58 PM

make drawings, plans or the like or did you wing it? I'm up to winging it but if you have something that might help us include this in our remodeling plans I'd be appreciative. We're not above moderate compensation for your time and effort.

Feel free to e-mail either myself or the spousal unit... else we'll have to take this thread to the Cage and Habitat Design forum .

Regards,
Jeff Nichols

oldherper Aug 04, 2003 04:13 PM

I was just winging it...I'm not that organized. I will try to put some drawings together and take some photos of key points if you would like. If you can send me (via E-mail) an address to send it to, I'll mail you some info. No compensation needed....

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