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Having trouble desiding which male to breed with this female?Any suggestions.
top pict. (#1) 03 female
(#2) 04 male
(#3) 04 male
I was told a lot of 2yr old male Thayeri are not fertile,is this true? I also have a 03 male thayeri that i'm going to use for a second backup incase the 04 aren't fertile, how long should I wait between introducing the o4 and the 03 with the female.

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RBICHLER

>> I also have a 03 male thayeri that i'm going to use for a second backup incase the 04 aren't fertile, how long should I wait between introducing the o4 and the 03 with the female.
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Heres the 03 male backup. Only pict I have close up.

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RBICHLER

I like the snake in picture #3 more than I like the others.

Bill
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It's not how many snakes you have. It's how happy and healthy you can keep them.

The female and #3 male (last pic, first post) look like Chris Baubel thayeri. Cool snakes, great pics and nice displays!

Males at 2 years can be plenty fertile as long as they have the physical size and good health. Introduce the males at one day intervals as long as the female is receptive.

Mike

>>The female and #3 male (last pic, first post) look like Chris Baubel thayeri.

Yes they are, as a matter of fact, all three in the first post are Chris B. Second post is one I pick up at Berkley Valvarium.
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RBICHLER

Robert,

I guess I have to ask the obvious questions. Were all of your snakes brumated? How long did you cool them for? Were they also keep in darkness while being cooled?

If they were cooled properly, I'm with Jonel put them with the oldest male first. Its better to expose your female to the male with the best chance of being fertile. Then try the others begining with the one you like best.

Here's the male I like best of mine.

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Vichris

Vichris Variables

>>Robert,
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>>I guess I have to ask the obvious questions. Were all of your snakes brumated? How long did you cool them for? Were they also keep in darkness while being cooled?

They all are and have been in brumation since Nov. 1st. Just waiting for them to stir, any day now. I kept them in the garage,50 to 60 most of the time, but starting to warm with this nice weather we have been having. Kings and Corns are awake with day temps at 72 degrees this week, I'm going to give it another week and see what happens with the temp. before I start warming. I like them to run through thier own brumation cycle.

Thanks for the advise;
R.Bichlers Colubrids
http://www.webspawner.com/users/rbichler/index.html
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RBICHLER

Robert,

I would try all of your males with your female. None of them are proven so give it a shot with all of them. It looks like you've done a good job of cooling them. Good luck with them.

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Vichris

Vichris Variables

>>Robert,
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>>I would try all of your males with your female. None of them are proven so give it a shot with all of them. It looks like you've done a good job of cooling them. Good luck with them.

>>Vichris Variables
Chris, You got a real looker there, Thayeri that is; Yes, I thought about that, I just kinda wanted to know who the fathers are. I guess it wouldn't be real hard to tell since the males are so different.
thanks again;
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RBICHLER

What do the parents of your breeders look like? That would influence my decision a lot.
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Dan
www.SerpentsOnline.com

Hi Robert

It really depends on what you want to get. There's a couple of things you could consider.

1.) Like you mentioned, age. Your younger males may be fertile but I would actually use the older male first and then use the two younger males as back up. If you do this, try alternating the males (older male with longer duration) from the 1st post brumation shed until the pre-lay shed. Gives you little space to miss the breeding "window." Just make sure that you give the female about two days off after feeding to let her digest and prevent regurgitation.

2.) What look are you trying to breed? Looking at your female, if you want some abberancies I would opt for #3 04 male. If you want reduced black, I would go for the 03 male. And if you want bold borders, #2 04 male. More on you personal preferance I guess.

3.) Is SHE ready? Simply make sure that the female is big enough, with good weight, and receptive(not thrashing around when you introduce the male(s)).

But then again. Variables = more variables. Give them all a shot and see what you get. Makes it more fun bro.

Sorry if I just made the decision harder, hehe. But I hope it helped. Take care.

Pic shows that opposites DO attract.

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Jonel @ Selective Propagations
www.spsnakes.com

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>>2.) What look are you trying to breed? Looking at your female, if you want some abberancies I would opt for #3 04 male. If you want reduced black, I would go for the 03 male. And if you want bold borders, #2 04 male. More on you personal preferance I guess.

Thanks Jonel for your input. This gives me something else to think about.
I wasn't really thinking about the option of reduced black, or bold borders. I was just thinking about abberancies and color.
Thanks again; R.Bichler

http://www.webspawner.com/users/rbichler/index.html

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RBICHLER

I pick the male in the third picture also. I just think it is a nicer looking snake. Good Luck! Derek

>>I pick the male in the third picture also. I just think it is a nicer looking snake. Good Luck! Derek

Ya,I think I will use the older male and the 2nd 04 male with that female And use my older male again with the 1st "04" male and this one, a "01" female (below) which I bred last year with my older male but the eggs were infertile, I believe he was to young, I did everything by the book and seen them breed twice, but had infertile eggs. Hopefully better LUCK this year.
Thanks R.Bichler
http://www.webspawner.com/users/rbichler/index.html

2001 female

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RBICHLER

n/p
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Rick
Never Enough
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