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Well, I've been doing a lot of thinking about these babies, and I'm not sure I should have used the word pastel to describe them. They do not come from a proven line of pastels, and I have yet to see what the normal hets turn out like. So for now, these are just going to be high red albinos, unless someone has a better idea.

Anyhow, I thought it would be fun to show the difference between one of the red albinos and one of the normal high contrast albinos. These two are littermates, and are only two days old.

Enjoy

Matt Crabe

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Last one until they shed. I promise.

Matt

I definetely would refer to them as Pastel albinos. Excellent looking ones at that.
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Randall L Turner Jr.
Boas make the world go round.

they are certainly nice. How bout Crabe line albinos? hehe
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Those are way cool.
As they mature they are gonna knock us out with there colour.
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www.repteq.com

Man I don't know what to call them. I HONESTLY haven't seen a better looking albino. Pastel of regular. Man I WANT a pair of hets. HOOK ME UP!!! Be an original you don't need a name to sell these these...but wait you aren't selling any.

Alex

Just wait untill they are a bit older. Pastels and corals just get better with age..
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Ed Lilley, www.constrictorsnw.com

you were right about the obvious color difference! Those will be neat a year from now! I'll be talkin to you later, Dan

Good to see you over here Dan. It was nice meeting you this weekend. Talk to you soon.

Matt

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...see those red ones in 6-12 months! It will be fun watching those guys grow up.

The pastel thing is always a tricky one. I'm a big believer in bloodlines. But, by the looks of the mother......From what I have seen if her...........She's a pastel. Again, me being a broken record, color has nothing to do with Pastelism. But, the color you and Ronne have shown with your albinos exibits the great "byproduct" that some pastels have.
As long as the mother showed the pastel characteristics...I do not see why your babies could not be classified as pastel albinos. I would just let it be known that this is your own personal bloodline. Or, give the credit to the people who produced your female and male albino. That way there is no confusion about the bloodline your babies came from.
They look awesome bud. Congrats.
John
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"To be the best..........You must lose your mind."

That's what I was thinking John. The credit goes to Barry Berg and Pete Kahl for producing and selling such beautiful animals. I am just happy to have had such a nice litter.

Matt

There is so much confusion out there regarding "pastelism".

What defines the trait and the benefit of the trait tends to get intermingled and misinterpreted.

Take Jeff's pastel dream albino's from a few years back. Now, how did he label those as "pastel" if there is no melanin present to judge the lack of it? Obviously it is impossible to judge the level of melanin if there is a mutation involved that totally interferes, so how was he able to label them as pastels? Well, I dont believe pastel albinos are deemed "pastel" because of the lack of melanin the individual has... but from the fact that it is from a pastel bloodline and has benefited from the increased color tied to that bloodline.

I think Matt's adult female looks like a pastel to me and is likely from a pastel bloodline (whether the breeder knew he was breeding for lack of melanin/increased color or not). The male is incredible as well obviously.. and many pastels pop out of the stripe line. So I think it is totally safe to call these offspring "pastel" albinos. The problem is that the line in which they have enough color to be deemed a pastel albino is totally subjective... oh well.
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-Ryan Homsey

www.topnotchboas.com

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I'll update you when they shed and feed a few times.

Matt

AHHH come on Matt, I knew this would happen. You were going to produce a whole litter of holdbacks just for yourself
LOL JK those are so amazing can't wait to see future pics
keep us droollllin
jake

Thanks Jake. That is an awesome Burke line albino. I am hoping to pick one of those up this year to diversify a little bit.

Anyhow, I am so excited about this litter. The only problem is I can't get anything else done. I keep finding myself wandering into the snake room to look at the babies (like they are going to look different after only 5 minutes, lol).

Matt

Well congrats again on producing beautiful healthy amazing litters. I hope the rest of your breedings go great!
Hope to see more pics soon
jake

you can call them whatever you feel like calling them. Amazing!

Phil Goss

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Congrats on the gorgeous litter.
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Delusions of Grandeur feed the EGO...

Those look really good from here. how about posting pictures of the parents. If you ask me thats a Pastel. Without proven genetics though it's tough to say. Depends on how the parents look. Looks to me like one of the parents was holding something back you didn't know about. what a score

Ken

Tri Valley Constrictors
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Ken Burns
Tri Valley Constrictors

Thanks,
Matt Crabe