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I was there, and boy was it packed!

but I want to know what you thought.....

1) Where you there, if so, how would you rate the show overall?
On a scale of 1 - 10, 10 being highest.

2) If you weren't there, was there a reason for you to NOT want to go?

3) What did you hope to see?
Did you see it or not?

4) What do you think they could've had less of?

5) What would you like to see more of?

6) Would you say most people go there to:
a) just to browse
b) to purchase their first reptile
c) to add prime specimens to their colections
d) just to pickup animals from pre-arranged deals
e) just to meet and speak with breeders

7) Where you satisfied overall with your purchase and/or trip?

Anything you would like to share would be great. I'd love to know what everyone thought about it.

Thanks much! Bci Joe

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Thanks and take care - Joe Rollo
'Tis not the stongest of the species that will eventually survive, nor the most intelligent, but the one most responsive to change' Charles Darwin

but I sure wanted to. I would love to hear about it and see some pics too!!!! Hopefully I'll make the next one!!!!!!!!
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i went there and it was packed. i stopped by your table and i really enjoyed your t positive albino.
this was my second show. the first time i went was to hamburg almost a year ago. i think the varety and amount of animals made this time better.
i like what i saw but really only pay attention to boas. since i am looking to pick up an arabesque for my next boa those are what i was looking for. i saw three but havign no money i didnt go home with any of them.
as far as boas go, there was not much of a variety of moprhs. i do not get to see many morphs in person and hoped to see some of the high dollar morphs such as motelys and sunglows. (again i really enjoyed being able to see your t positive).
i dont know why everyone else goes, but i deffinatelty go for three reasons.
first and foremost to pick up feeders and not have to pay shipping. second is to see all the reptiles i only get to see on the internet in person, as well as all the others there. and third, if i have money to add the next animal to my collection if i can find what i am looking for since what i want seems to usually be a low quantity (choice) high price tag situation.

i had a good time there and will be going again in april. maybe this time i will introduce myself to you (you and the guy at the table with you were explaining genetics to some guy who looked like he crawled out of the woods). not sure if you are looking for suggestions for your table, but if you are drop me an email and ill let you know.

>>I was there, and boy was it packed!
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>>but I want to know what you thought.....
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>>1) Where you there, if so, how would you rate the show overall?
>> On a scale of 1 - 10, 10 being highest.
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>>2) If you weren't there, was there a reason for you to NOT want to go?
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>>3) What did you hope to see?
>> Did you see it or not?
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>>4) What do you think they could've had less of?
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>>5) What would you like to see more of?
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>>6) Would you say most people go there to:
>> a) just to browse
>> b) to purchase their first reptile
>> c) to add prime specimens to their colections
>> d) just to pickup animals from pre-arranged deals
>> e) just to meet and speak with breeders
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>>7) Where you satisfied overall with your purchase and/or trip?
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>>Anything you would like to share would be great. I'd love to know what everyone thought about it.
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>>Thanks much! Bci Joe
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>>Thanks and take care - Joe Rollo
>>'Tis not the stongest of the species that will eventually survive, nor the most intelligent, but the one most responsive to change' Charles Darwin

Thanks for the kind words!

Actually, between the 3 of us, we had quite a few display animals that maybe weren't displayed well enough for all to see...

We had 2 different T Positive's, Mike's New line of Tiger-like animals, a Patternless Nicaraguan Boa, a possible Super Salmontime, a Salmontine Adult, a pure Panamanian Boa, a bunch of Hypo Central American Boas (Honduran, Cancun, Sonoran, Nicaraguan), a beautiful adult trio of Surinam Redtails, 2 adult female boas, some Salmon Hogs, and a myriad of strange and aberrant genetic ball pythons.

Then we also had an adult female Gila Monster, some Crested Geckos, Cane Toads, a Gator, some Scorpions, a Leopard Gecko, some Toads, and much, much more!

Feeders, supplies, lighting, bedding, and more! Was like a one stop shop! lol

Thanks again and hope you enjoy the show next time around as well, and please stop by and say hello!

Joe
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Thanks and take care - Joe Rollo
'Tis not the stongest of the species that will eventually survive, nor the most intelligent, but the one most responsive to change' Charles Darwin

Yeah Joe, I did want to check out that Gila monster.....but like you say you were the one stop shop...and everyone must have known...cause I could not get up close to that Gila!!!! It was really packed out!

I wonder if we could get something going.... 2 or 3 hours north of that show? Maybe Corning, NY or Scranton, PA ??

Just a thought...

Take care, Andy
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Hey andy, I'm up for the Corning NY one!!! Let me know, I'll help!
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Hey Joe did you take any pictures?

Joel Pretz

Do most vendors care? Are some sensitive? Are there things to consider? I would LOVE to take pics but don't want to offend anyone or take poor quality pics of otherwise high quality snakes and then have people upset with me after the fact.
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Sincerely, Jason
www.NortheastSnakes.com
NortheastSnakes@aol.com

encouraged and helped those who chose to.

If they wanted to take a pic of a snake settled in the tank, i'd open the enclosure to give them a clear shot.

If they wanted to take a pic touching the T Positive, I took the thing out and draped it over them to take a nice pic.

As a matter of fact, I usually come across some film crew filming for the local news, and this was no acception. I believe this would be aired in Lancaster, Pa only... don't quite remember.

They interviewed my buddy Mike Brooks of TNS Reptiles fame as we were both discussing genetics behind some of our display animals, as well as a new line of boas that Mike is working with that somewhat resemble Tigers, but are much more....

I believe we are at a public event and should expect this.

Maybe one day if I come across a pic of one of my own animals being sold on the net by someone else, maybe then I would have different feelings about it! lol

Other than this, I also believe allowing the photography would draw more interest to the table.... not bad.

Well, back to work!

Bci Joe
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Thanks and take care - Joe Rollo
'Tis not the stongest of the species that will eventually survive, nor the most intelligent, but the one most responsive to change' Charles Darwin

get to leave my booth much...
tried to make it to the bathroom once... almost didn't make it! lol
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Thanks and take care - Joe Rollo
'Tis not the stongest of the species that will eventually survive, nor the most intelligent, but the one most responsive to change' Charles Darwin

I made a few comments about the Hamburg show in my WIR but maybe I was a little too hard on the show. I'll try to answer the questions now that I've had a few extra days to think about it.

I was there, and boy was it packed!
but I want to know what you thought..... YES, WAY TOO PACKED

1) Where you there, if so, how would you rate the show overall?
On a scale of 1 - 10, 10 being highest.
7 simply because it was too packed. They either need a larger building OR less non-herp vendors. I never thought I'd see the day when cell phone providers had tables at a herp show.

2) If you weren't there, was there a reason for you to NOT want to go?
N/A

3) What did you hope to see?
Did you see it or not?
Hoped to see more locality boas, including BCA's PLUS I was looking for a few corn snakes that I couldn't find (not a big deal though considering the time of year)

4) What do you think they could've had less of?
PEOPLE

5) What would you like to see more of?
boas in general but I arrived later in the afternoon so they sold quick

6) Would you say most people go there to:
a) just to browse
I think most people have somewhat of an IDEA of what they want PRIOR to going BUT we're all guilty of buying on a whim at these shows. This is a great opportunity for vendors with herps available for under $200 since they'll appeal most to these buyers IMHO
b) to purchase their first reptile
God I just hope not a venomous animal
c) to add prime specimens to their collections
d) just to pickup animals from pre-arranged deals
maybe people buying high-end herps. I cannot imagine carrying $5000 on me to buy a high-end reptile on a whim UNLESS I'm a fellow vendor and I've had a good day in sales
e) just to meet and speak with breeders
this was actually one of the reasons I went but it was too crowded

7) Where you satisfied overall with your purchase and/or trip?
YES, I spent a small fortune on frozen rodents but I saved on shipping. I remember shows years ago when IF you didn't get there early enough, you'd miss out buying frozen rodents because they sold out so quickly. The supply caught up with demand

Anything you would like to share would be great. I'd love to know what everyone thought about it. Overall, I thought it was a good show.
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Sincerely, Jason
www.NortheastSnakes.com
NortheastSnakes@aol.com

Hi Jason, thanks for your comments!

I think we all agree that is was packed! A bigger venue, better ventilation, more parking... yes, we can use them all!

I did take a bit of a look around, and so agree, aside from my hypos, I really didn't see locality boas... a few older common nics is all.

I do agree most probably bring enough money for a small impulse buy.

And the comment about the frozen rodents makes sense! by the way, my buddy I mentioned is Dave Prada, Komodo Reptiles... he was there selling rodents too!

Well, thanks again Jason for all your comments. Hopefully i'll see you there again soon!

Joe
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Thanks and take care - Joe Rollo
'Tis not the stongest of the species that will eventually survive, nor the most intelligent, but the one most responsive to change' Charles Darwin

Hey BCI Joe !!!! First off...I enjoyed meeting you and Mike Brooks !!!

I spent alot of time with Frank Martin as well...Frank is an awesome guy!!!

Great seeing you again Paul....those Sunsets are smokin' HOT!!!!

Great seeing you James Lee!

I saw so many people there...too many to name....but it was great seeing everyone.

You guys all have some totally awesome boas...I could stare at them for days and not see enough...lol.

The Hamburg show was totally packed out! I think after being couped up all winter ...I think people just flock to that Feb. show! I think we need a bigger building...

It was almost like Daytona...lol..

I think people spend money at that show...at least from what I saw....but for the most part I think alot of people are looking to spend a couple hundred dollars just to get out and get something new!!!

But man oh man...there must have been thousands go through that place....kind of gets too crowded and you really can't see everything like you would want to....

Glad it was not summer...we would not be able to even breath walking through...lol.

Also....Everyone...please believe me when I say this...the pictures you are seeing of that T positive colombian BCI Joe has ....do NOT even come close to what it looks like in person!!!!!!

That thing is amazing! I really loved the T positive Argentine they had...Oh if I only had the cash...

Saw alot of great animals and had a great time only it was way too fast a day for me...

I picked up some great animals from Frank Martin !!!!....I now have my first Ghost BOA!!!! I think Frank produces some of the most Amazing Ghost boas I have ever seen....It is a pleasure to deal with Frank Martin....I think his Orangasm line of hypos produces some of the best hypos I have seen.

Well enough of my rants...I had a great time...oh...my wife was with me and she had a great time as well...she was amazed to see all the people....I think it went over big! Take care all. Andy Federico
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It was finally nice to meet you, I know you were around the tri-state area somwhere lol....Hey maybe next show you can come with me and Joe and bring some of your stuff, that would be great. We had a great time, between Joe, Myself and Adam from MillenniumMorphs there was some nice animals floating around especailly Joe and his damn t lol.....Take care Andy talk to you soon-Mike

Mike Brooks
TNS Reptiles
Long Island, NY
631-732-4233

It was great talking with you. What an awesome bunch of animals you have! Thanks for the offer...I am honored! Take care, Andy
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Hi Andy, it was great meeting you too!

Thanks so much for the kind words about my T Positive's, and if you can imagine, that was the snakes COLD and with NO light!!!

I agree Frank has to produce some of the best Ghosts out there...

and I also stand by the offer Mike made to you.

Thanks again, see you again soon!

Joe
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Thanks and take care - Joe Rollo
'Tis not the stongest of the species that will eventually survive, nor the most intelligent, but the one most responsive to change' Charles Darwin

That T positive is insane!!! Yeah I can only imagine it when his color is full out! Whoever gets that one will surely have an amazing animal! Thanks again... Andy
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Hey Andy,
I didn't even see Frank's table. I must have missed it. I would have liked to see his stuff. Please post pics of the Ghost you picked up from him.
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Sincerely, Jason
www.NortheastSnakes.com
NortheastSnakes@aol.com

Jason, I was meeting Frank Martin at the show to pick up some animals from him....I will try and get some Ghost pics soon,...but at the moment he is busy Breeding....lol...and I did not want to disturb him....he is breeding one of the other animals I got from Frank as well!!! Yeah!

This pic is just a pick of one of the Salmons I produced in 05'...Andy

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Fell on the FLOOR lol...............I love mulch on my oatmeal burger, I'm still paying for that one...On a more serious note, show was great, crowded but still good. It's all about meeting up with those other people with the same love of the animals and enjoying the trip and trying to make a few bucks while your at it.

Mike Brooks
TNS Reptiles
Long Island, NY
631-732-4233

good times..
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Thanks and take care - Joe Rollo
'Tis not the stongest of the species that will eventually survive, nor the most intelligent, but the one most responsive to change' Charles Darwin

1) They need to get a different location the crowd gets worse every show... This coming spring/summer is going to be insanity.
2) I saw some amazing Boas and deals as well. There was an adult male T positive for sale 12.5k!!!
3) Get there early!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
4) I feel there is a misconception that every herper who attends is a hick!!! I understand that is what many people (breeders) think of the show.
-Greg Reinert-

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Thanks and take care - Joe Rollo
'Tis not the stongest of the species that will eventually survive, nor the most intelligent, but the one most responsive to change' Charles Darwin

Is that one of the pastels you are selling? Once again, awesome contrasting pics. Man, that T is cool.
Michael Burton

Hi Michael, that is my holdback male... i've offered him before, but am thankful he didn't sell... lol

Thanks, Joe
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Thanks and take care - Joe Rollo
'Tis not the stongest of the species that will eventually survive, nor the most intelligent, but the one most responsive to change' Charles Darwin

I thought the Hamburg show was AWESOME!! I love a crowd- as long as I can stay behind my table out of the way!! LOL
One of the problems w/ a large crowd at the Hamburg show is Dave Hess - the promoter- is he recently added an entire another row of tables!! Good for him -but not great for vendors & customers!! Very little room behind the tables & NO aisle space!!
HEY Dave I still love anyway!! Great show & AGAIN -I love the turnout at most of the Hamburg shows!!

Thanks
Tim Koppenhofer
Special K Reptiles

p.s.- the adult T was unbelieveable!! AND the price TOO!

Hello but I could barely see you through the crowd! lol... you were quite busy, so I went back to seek refuge behind my tables.. lol

Thanks for the kind words!

Joe
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Thanks and take care - Joe Rollo
'Tis not the stongest of the species that will eventually survive, nor the most intelligent, but the one most responsive to change' Charles Darwin

Tim, it was great seeing you again too! I agree that show looked like a pure success! It would have been hard to be Dave and have to turn vendors away...those crowds were amazing. Take care, Andy
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